Boycotting Warrior 4.0 (Let's do it!)

[Mnemosynia]

That's why I said partially. And removing the damage part is a good thing to stop trigger happy players from burning their utility skills right away for DPS and not having them ready for when it matters. And being able to pop it without the parry requirement is awesome.

You didnt say that you said no. potency removal is still potency removal if players like to use it because it was damage that was on them the point is the reprisal in role skills is not the same or even close to DRK reprisal so its a removal.

Again, see above, that's a good thing to remove the damage part. And without the damage part, the reset is not that important.

Again you said you didnt say partially you said no, and again the point is we lost those skills and the damage part and reset part was unique to DRKs it what set us apart your missing the point when im saying we lost skills,

That's why I said partially. And frankly, we have so much things to Dark Arts now, the evasion boost wouldn't have been that useful.

Evasion boost not that usefull...yep not even gonna say much just gonna say your wrong in every respect here.

I wasn't refering to the new Delirium but the damage boost on SoulEater combo making its basic version the same as Delirium combo.
So, you only lost the INT debuff...and the animation, which was indeed much cooler than SoulEater

Personally, I would like to have a third combo too, if it could end in Scourge but it would feel very copy-pasted from PLD.

Thats something i can agree with you on.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

That's why I said partially. And removing the damage part is a good thing to stop trigger happy players from burning their utility skills right away for DPS and not having them ready for when it matters. And being able to pop it without the parry requirement is awesome.

Again, see above, that's a good thing to remove the damage part. And without the damage part, the reset is not that important.

But that doesn't change it being a damage nerf. Furthermore, it wasn't "trigger happy players." Reprisal procs could not be saved. You either used them or lost it after roughly 2 GCDs. As for Low Blow. What bosses haven't been immune to stuns? Either way, a large amount of DPS for Dark Knight came from its procs and both were scrapped.

You also aren't properly equating Scourge to Bloodspliier. The former was entirely free damage whereas Bloodspiller costs mana. Basically, I could use Scourge and DA + Souleater for the near equivalent damage but at half the mana cost. No matter how you slice it, that is a damage nerf despite Syphon and Souleater being buffed. Put simply, Dark Knight is significantly weaker now than it was in 3.x

Evasion boost not that usefull...yep not even gonna say much just gonna say your wrong in every respect here.

Ehh, I agree with Rey here. I never used Dark Dance for its evasion. I used it because Dark Knight stacked parry and it worked for quick mitigation from autos.

[Reynhart]

Evasion boost not that usefull...yep not even gonna say much just gonna say your wrong in every respect here.

If you have MP to spare, it's better DPS wise on everything besides a potential DA+DD...and it's better mitigation wise on TBN over DA+DD. So...no.

But that doesn't change it being a damage nerf.

Everyone was hit the same way, so it doesn't change relative DPS. And the overall DPS of your whole toolkit has increasing.

Furthermore, it wasn't "trigger happy players." Reprisal procs could not be saved. You either used them or lost it after roughly 2 GCDs. As for Low Blow. What bosses haven't
been immune to stuns? Either way, a large amount of DPS for Dark Knight came from its procs and both were scrapped.

Yeah, they couldn't. But you could enhance your chance to proc at the right time with Dark Dance, and it could proc while on CD because you had a lucky parry. And with Silences and Stuns relegated to pure utility skills, they could include them in mechanics, now.

You also aren't properly equating Scourge to Bloodspliier. The former was entirely free damage whereas Bloodspiller costs mana.

Bloodspiller does not cost mana. Why is everyone spreading misinformation on that skill ?

[Jhaerik]

Again I don't care about the math.. or what tank is 2.46% better than the other. All I care about is I now have less buttons to press. FF14 is (like most mmos) a game where you target something and press hotkeys til it dies. Now we have less of those.

It's like buying a copy of Microsoft Flight Sim.. having them patch it and removing half the hotkey binds so some jackass playing on PS4 can play it. This games hybrid PC/Console nature will be it's downfall. Every Xpac we'll have the same exact number of abilites... which means they will have to remove more and more older abilities.

It's WoW all over again. Right down to zero gear choices (iLvL = king) and everything getting more simplified every xpac. I mean only real choices this game had was in what to do between the awkward gaps in rotations due to timers on different cooldowns. Now.. we don't even have that. Whole game is "mash this exact rotation, in the exact same gear as everyone else" and pay us money.

[konpachizaraki]

after watching xeno play at the very least war isn't in trouble offensively, he deals almost as much DPS as the other 3 dps(yeah he did wear 3 heavensward STR accs) red mage is the only one in his party that is significantly above him

[Reynhart]

All I care about is I now have less buttons to press.

As a DRK, I have exactly one less button to press at 70 than 60. And my personal choice is to skip Awareness...sure, huuuuge deal.
And you know some "jackass" PC player also use a controller ?

What you totally ignore is how choosing your role skills is much more important than chossing the past cross-class skills, depending on the content you want to clear.

So, yeah, maybe you just overreact...

[Zephanoa]

#DeleteWAR.... JK my tanky-spanky bros/sis.

[Alphras]

All I care about is I now have less buttons to press.

That was the whole point of the job revamp though. The same applies to all jobs.

t's WoW all over again. Right down to zero gear choices (iLvL = king)

That was the case since 2.0. Only difference being penta melded right side for rich healers/tanks (I did that multiple times, they were really expensive).

The option to wear right side STR is back for now. Even if the dps increase isn't that big compared to 3.0.

[Glenarn]

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It's like buying a copy of Microsoft Flight Sim.. having them patch it and removing half the hotkey binds so some jackass playing on PS4 can play it. This games hybrid PC/Console nature will be it's downfall.

It has nothing to do with consoles, they made these bad decisions to balance tanking, if they had wanted less buttons for the console players to press then they would have allowed them to use Combos similar to the ones used in PvP, but they didn't because they weren't thinking about console players when they made these decisions.

[Tila]

That was the whole point of the job revamp though. The same applies to all jobs.



That was the case since 2.0. Only difference being penta melded right side for rich healers/tanks (I did that multiple times, they were really expensive).

The option to wear right side STR is back for now. Even if the dps increase isn't that big compared to 3.0.

Thats been a major point of contention with tanks. "Stormblood changes all tanks in this way! Except PLD, who gains a lot and loses nothing while keeping things others lost."