Is Onslaught a joke?

[Bdyer]

I have not played PLD, but I hear from some people Shield Stance sucks in bosses due to the slow hit rate?

Yes building gauge in shield oath is slow on bosses until Holy Spirit, then it pick up. Of course paladin's oath gauge has nothing you can spend with it offensively so most of the time mine just sits at 100 or is spent on Shelton not for the block but for the mp restore.

[Agrieus]

Yes building gauge in shield oath is slow on bosses until Holy Spirit, then it pick up. Of course paladin's oath gauge has nothing you can spend with it offensively so most of the time mine just sits at 100 or is spent on Shelton not for the block but for the mp restore.

The offensive aspect is via shield swipe - which should always be on cooldown. And the current Paladin is built around casting Holy Spirit, burning off your mp with it (while using sheltron to recover your MP WHILE you're throwing out Holy Spirits) then rebuilding your MP up again to use Requiescat + Holy Spirit. Fight or Flight should be used while rebuilding MP, while Requiescat should be used just before you start your Holy Spirit spam. Also, you don't Halone on Paladin after 64. Ever. You do way more damage with spamming Holy spirit and Shield Swipe + Circle of scorn is enough to maintain hate.

Even if a DPS comes close to pulling off you, there's no reason for any of them not to bring their hate dumper. There's zero reason for any dps or healer to pull off a tank now since everyone has access to hate builders and hate dumpers.

[Mnemosynia]

You guys came for my dark dance and my repisal and my low blow and now you wanna come after my plunge OH GTFO warriors you don't get to complain after being godlike for a full expansion and now being absolutely normal and complain about why you dont have a real gap closer.

[Areic]

Are you serious? A charge without cost would be crazy where? Please enlighten me what Plunge is then

DRK also didn't have the stupid damage we did before stormblood, honestly their leap should cost some of their gauge now, though they're on a 30 second CD when ours is 15. We're fairly well off, we're durable, do huge dps for a tank, we shouldn't have easy access mobility on top of that. ( Though from what I understand PLD is gonna be wrecking our DPS with current theorycraft numbers, but we'll have to wait and see. ) It's first week of release, lets wait and see where numbers/power is before calling it a joke. I personally will love it for charge/gathering adds during trial fights

[Agrieus]

Honestly, I think everyone should hold off their complaints about the new changes until they hit lvl 70 and feel like they've got a good idea on how their fully developed job's are supposed to be used. Complaining now before you guys are lvl 70 is the same as complaining about something you don't even fully understand yet and haven't given yourselves the chance to play around with....

[konpachizaraki]

, I think everyone should hold off their about the new changes until they hit lvl 70 and feel like they've got a good idea on how their job's are to be used. now before you guys are lvl 70 is the same as about something you don't even yet and haven't given yourselves the to play around with....

the thing is this isn't the only thread that is talking about it, some of those people who sounded the same argument are either 70 or who already got the skill and they still thought it wasn't good
and you're maining PLD so of course you will think that this is not important , because your job doesn't have as much trouble as the other 2

[Agrieus]

Yet early access has only been out for not even 4 whole days, and we haven't even touched a raid or anything difficult beyond normal mode. And I'm speaking directly to those that haven't hit lvl 70 yet. But for those that have, again, the new content is only 4 days old.

[konpachizaraki]

Yet early access has only been out for not even 4 whole days, and we haven't even touched a raid or anything difficult beyond normal mode. And I'm speaking directly to those that haven't hit lvl 70 yet. But for those that have, again, the new content is only 4 days old.

i don't think the players should hold off anything, because if they don't complain SE won't know something is wrong with the job
the only way the players can get SE moving is by not playing the job and complaining, that works in the past so it will definitely works again in the future

[Agrieus]

Because too many of you are looking at the new abilities as if they were a stand alone ability or only tie into 1 other thing. It's like back when Heavensward hit and Dragoon got access to Blood of the Dragon. For 15 seconds, it boosted damage on it's jumps. Then you got fang and claw...which allowed you to extend the time on BotD as well as giving Dragoon access to a 4th tier combo, which improved the initial usefulness of BotD. My point being is that as you level and unlock more abilities, the way the previous abilities are used slowly change and the shape of the job changes. Their overall utility changes and you start to see how it's skills tie together. Just unlocking a single ability that has no direct ties, or limited use, is very VERY rarely a game changer.

[CaptnYesterday]

...Can we please just increase the recharge to 30 seconds like other similar actions and have it cost TP?

I would actually use this skill if they did that. And it would be fun. Just another shoe-horned cost to justify the new gauge.