Is Onslaught a joke?

[Mnemosynia]

You guys came for my dark dance and my repisal and my low blow and now you wanna come after my plunge OH GTFO warriors you don't get to complain after being godlike for a full expansion and now being absolutely normal and complain about why you dont have a real gap closer.

[Agrieus]

Honestly, I think everyone should hold off their complaints about the new changes until they hit lvl 70 and feel like they've got a good idea on how their fully developed job's are supposed to be used. Complaining now before you guys are lvl 70 is the same as complaining about something you don't even fully understand yet and haven't given yourselves the chance to play around with....

[konpachizaraki]

, I think everyone should hold off their about the new changes until they hit lvl 70 and feel like they've got a good idea on how their job's are to be used. now before you guys are lvl 70 is the same as about something you don't even yet and haven't given yourselves the to play around with....

the thing is this isn't the only thread that is talking about it, some of those people who sounded the same argument are either 70 or who already got the skill and they still thought it wasn't good
and you're maining PLD so of course you will think that this is not important , because your job doesn't have as much trouble as the other 2

[Agrieus]

Yet early access has only been out for not even 4 whole days, and we haven't even touched a raid or anything difficult beyond normal mode. And I'm speaking directly to those that haven't hit lvl 70 yet. But for those that have, again, the new content is only 4 days old.

[konpachizaraki]

Yet early access has only been out for not even 4 whole days, and we haven't even touched a raid or anything difficult beyond normal mode. And I'm speaking directly to those that haven't hit lvl 70 yet. But for those that have, again, the new content is only 4 days old.

i don't think the players should hold off anything, because if they don't complain SE won't know something is wrong with the job
the only way the players can get SE moving is by not playing the job and complaining, that works in the past so it will definitely works again in the future

[Agrieus]

Because too many of you are looking at the new abilities as if they were a stand alone ability or only tie into 1 other thing. It's like back when Heavensward hit and Dragoon got access to Blood of the Dragon. For 15 seconds, it boosted damage on it's jumps. Then you got fang and claw...which allowed you to extend the time on BotD as well as giving Dragoon access to a 4th tier combo, which improved the initial usefulness of BotD. My point being is that as you level and unlock more abilities, the way the previous abilities are used slowly change and the shape of the job changes. Their overall utility changes and you start to see how it's skills tie together. Just unlocking a single ability that has no direct ties, or limited use, is very VERY rarely a game changer.

[Baci]

Yet early access has only been out for not even 4 whole days, and we haven't even touched a raid or anything difficult beyond normal mode. And I'm speaking directly to those that haven't hit lvl 70 yet. But for those that have, again, the new content is only 4 days old.

I´m always confused about people like you. First its people should wait till they´re 70 after that its wait till you have touched a Raid. Whats after that? Wait a bit longer. You dont need all of that, you can just look at the skills read them and know its just bad

[Tondier]

Honestly, I think everyone should hold off their complaints about the new changes until they hit lvl 70 and feel like they've got a good idea on how their fully developed job's are supposed to be used. Complaining now before you guys are lvl 70 is the same as complaining about something you don't even fully understand yet and haven't given yourselves the chance to play around with....

I'm at level 70 and have been for a few days now. It still feels bad. Want to move the goalpost any further? Maybe a few more days, a few more weeks, or how about we wait until the next patch before we're allowed to give our impressions?

[MagiusNecros]

I'm at level 70 and have been for a few days now. It still feels bad. Want to move the goalpost any further? Maybe a few more days, a few more weeks, or how about we wait until the next patch before we're allowed to give our impressions?

Wait till next expansion.