Is Onslaught a joke?

[konpachizaraki]

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yeah that's cool and all, but doesn't change the fact those abilities WAR got aren't very good and aren't very useful unlike what PLD got
so it is easy for you to say it since your job are in the much better position than WAR is

[Ogulbuk]

You guys came for my dark dance and my repisal and my low blow and now you wanna come after my plunge OH GTFO warriors you don't get to complain after being godlike for a full expansion and now being absolutely normal and complain about why you dont have a real gap closer.

Like you were not using our Bloodbath all that time

But we can agree on one thing: this is not a real gap closer. Also: I'm not even asking for it to do the same damage, I'd be happy with half the damage (as it stands now) if it didn't cost BG. If it's going to cost BG, it better do some decent damage, though.

Because too many of you are looking at the new abilities as if they were a stand alone ability or only tie into 1 other thing.

My complaint is due to the opposite. If this was entirely stand alone, I would be fine, but by costing BG, it is not stand alone, it will always be something that upon use, steals from your potential damage for very little or no gain.

BTW, I have worked on MMO development, obviously not this game. At least me personally, I rather listen to feedback from day one than tell anyone to shut up until I am done taking my 30 day post-launch nap.

[Shinkyo]

There's use of Onslaught.
Aside from the obvious gap closer which can avoid losing a GCD, I also find use of the still to manage your beast gauge in preparation for the next berserk.
You can use it to burn you gauge when you want to switch stance and waste less gauge in the process (i.e. use it to empty you gauge then switch stance).
Also, if your berserk is about for be back up but burning 50 gauge would delay your berserk burst by many gcd, you can spend 20 now (assuming upheaval is on CD) for a little ogcd potency so than you get back to 100 when zerk is back and don't delay the burst.
I believe both upheaval and onslaught are tools to min/max dps and align full gauge with berserk.

[Baci]

Yet early access has only been out for not even 4 whole days, and we haven't even touched a raid or anything difficult beyond normal mode. And I'm speaking directly to those that haven't hit lvl 70 yet. But for those that have, again, the new content is only 4 days old.

I´m always confused about people like you. First its people should wait till they´re 70 after that its wait till you have touched a Raid. Whats after that? Wait a bit longer. You dont need all of that, you can just look at the skills read them and know its just bad

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

There's zero reason for any dps or healer to pull off a tank now since everyone has access to hate builders and hate dumpers.

That awkward moment you keep pulling off the MT despite keeping Diversion on CD... it's not a hate dump, though, just a quelling.

[MrWarMachine]

If you're in defiance, the potency isn't terrible compared to the BG cost vs inner beast, it also has the effect of increased enmity. So if I find I'm in a situation where I want to tomahawk I'll pop this too for an extra enmity and dps boost.

As someone above posted, it can be a tool to help keep your BG value where you want it to time berserk with your FC's and infuriate.

I've found it handy for zooming around the arena to dps down the things that need the quick dpses, like the adds on the last boss of shisui of the violet tides.

[PK_THUNER]

I'm almost lv 67 but what I have been doing is butcher's block into onslaught switch stance then build 100 gauge and go into my berserk rotation.

[YitharV2]

A charge without cost would be a little crazy for some higher end content mobility wise.

But DRK has Plunge?

[CaptnYesterday]

I'm almost lv 67 but what I have been doing is butcher's block into onslaught switch stance then build 100 gauge and go into my berserk rotation.

Sounds interesting. I'm going to try this when I jump in. You do this with dungeon pulls or MSQ?

[Vurtney]

I really wish the skill used Mana instead of Beast Cauge. Lore wise we shouldn't even have Mana but it's there and doing absolutely nothing.