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  1. #231
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    Jarinolde's Avatar
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    Kemira Sukono
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Souru View Post
    Kaiten does in fact affect Higanbana DoTs.
    Interesting, though I'll test it myself to confirm it in a little bit. This would change the opener thus: Potion after Jinpu, Kaiten after Gekko, Guren moved to replace the 2nd, double-weaved Shinten. You'll end the opener at 10 Kenki.

    EDIT: I can confirm that Kaiten does in fact boost Higanbana's DoT. At level 60, i265, with Jinpu up, it ticked for on average 325. With Kaiten, it ticked on average for 550.
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    Last edited by Jarinolde; 06-17-2017 at 12:23 PM.

  2. #232
    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    Malboro
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    Samurai Lv 90
    No clue what im doing as a LVL50 SAM but im having a blast with it anyway!
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  3. #233
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    Falar's Avatar
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    Kane Blackstone
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Wow, this is one smooth and well flowing class and it seemed intuitive setting up my hotbars right away at 50.


    This kind of makes up for the warts they put on tanking and DRK in particular and the fact that I can't get past Raubahn. Kind of.
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  4. #234
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    Zarex Dragneel
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    I made a quick video showing that Kaiten does in fact affect our dot Higanbana. For both applications I only used the slashing debuff combo befor applying the dot each time.

    I forgot to pre build kenki so I ended up using an Enpi and the slashing combo twice in a row to get my 20 Kenki befor applying the Kaiten boosted Dot tick on a dummy. Have tested this around 10 times each way and they always yield the same results. Without the Kaiten you'll see the dot hit for somewhere in the 200-300's with the odd one being 400ish but with Kaiten I have yet to see it drop below 400 a tick with the highest being in the 900's a few times and in the video there are some mid 800 ticks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2F2al0nSig
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    Last edited by Zarex; 06-17-2017 at 03:39 PM.

  5. #235
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    Furious's Avatar
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    Furious Laughter
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    Ravana
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarex View Post
    I made a quick video showing that Kaiten does in fact affect our dot Higanbana. For both applications I only used the slashing debuff combo befor applying the dot each time.

    I forgot to pre build kenki so I ended up using an Enpi and the slashing combo twice in a row to get my 20 Kenki befor applying the Kaiten boosted Dot tick on a dummy. Have tested this around 10 times each way and they always yield the same results. Without the Kaiten you'll see the dot hit for somewhere in the 200-300's with the odd one being 400ish but with Kaiten I have yet to see it drop below 400 a tick with the highest being in the 900's a few times and in the video there are some mid 800 ticks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2F2al0nSig
    Not that I disagree with you, but it's impossible for a 50% buff to take a 400 max to mid 800s, so something else is also affecting the numbers.

    Edit: The highest value you got in your non-kaiten test was 457, which means the highest number you should get in your kaiten test should have been ~685... yet your highest kaiten dot tick was 857. To get 857 from kaiten and the slashing debuff alone your max crit dot for non-kaiten should have been around 571 damage. Of course there is a lot of variance in getting a crit at the same time as a high damage roll for a given tick, but going from 450 to 571 goes well beyond that.

    TLR; yes, kaiten almost definitely affects higanbana's dot, but likely not in a purely multiplicative way...
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    Last edited by Furious; 06-17-2017 at 07:49 PM.

  6. #236
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    Muppet57's Avatar
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    Character
    Hideko Maki
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    Hey guys, how are the rotations theory craft going?
    Which rotation should I use for endgame?
    Almost at 60 and I want to practice the right one for when savage comes
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    Straw Hat on FFXIV ?

  7. #237
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    taquito's Avatar
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    Swan Flame
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    how can i put kaiten & lanjistu into one marco so that Kaiten fires off first if it is not in a cooldown? Thanks.
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  8. #238
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    I think a minor QoL fix for Samurai would be to have the Sen bonuses in the tooltips coloured to the Sen that you actually receive, so Getsu as blue, etc etc. Right now, they're all yellow.

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  9. #239
    Player
    Falar's Avatar
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    Kane Blackstone
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Hoping for a future AF gear that isn't robe/hat. I want samurai armor with a grotesque mask and horns on the helmet.
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  10. #240
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    Talec's Avatar
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    Violet Drakarys
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Huh, glad you liked it. I have to admit, I find Samurai a bit boring to play. I expected more. Funywise I never had RDM on my list and am overwhelmed about his playstile. So I found a new class, but surprisingly wasn't Samurai.
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