Shield Oath makes Sheltron useless.

[Maeka]

Sheltron.

How much I used to love Sheltron.



I would use it for Tank Busters like Ilberd's Griffon Claw. I would use it to help replenish MP after casting Clemency. It had a 30 second (?) cooldown, and that was fine.

Now, it has a 5 second cooldown but costs 50 oath.

I get 5...... FIVE.....Oath from a successful block.

Earlier I tanked a Grand Gubal Library (the MSQ one), and I was I-level sync'd on all of my equipment. Popped Shield Oath and proceeded to tank the dungeon all the way to the first boss. I used Sheltron once (it took me 3 trash pulls to get enough Oath to do so).

I was standing at the 2nd boss with 45 Oath and scratching my head going "I could have used Sheltron like 10 times now back during Heavensward".

Now, I like Sword Oath. That feels good. But man, Shield Oath.....

Shield Oath needs serious work. 5 Oath per block is not cutting it. It basically turns Sheltron into this thing you can only use 1 time per boss battle, or once every several trash pulls.

Maybe 10? 15? Oath per block would be more reasonable. Even with Sword Oath, there is no way that I would ever be able to cast Sheltron again 5 seconds after casting it once unless I built my Oath meter clear up to 100, and to do that, it would take me most of an entire dungeon while using Shield Oath.

You can't even stance-dance to build Oath, because you dump half of your Oath when you swap, so you'd have to get 100 oath with Sword Oath (and have serious enmity problems and take far more damage while doing so) and then swap just to get a Sheltron...

It just needs work.

[bswpayton]

Sheltron.

How much I used to love Sheltron.

its good in sword oath thats all we need haha i been using it alot hah

[Maeka]

its good in sword oath thats all we need haha i been using it alot hah

Eh, I'm not about to tank dungeons in Sword Oath with every healer dumping their entire MP pools into DPS since they don't have to stance-dance anymore. The whole point of this thread is that Shield Oath needs a buff.

Yes, Sword Oath is awesome for Off-tank or solo play... but Shield Oath/Main Tank really isn't working, it doesn't appear to work the way Sheltron was originally designed to be.

[Brannigan]

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[Maeka]

So basically you're saying that Sheltron should be useless in any dungeon/level sync'd content prior to 64, when some content (like Baelsar's Wall) is designed around you having it?

Okaay...

[Brannigan]

If level sync balance mattered then Scholar wouldn't exist. Baelsar's Wall isn't balanced around Sheltron because instanced dungeons are balanced around fingerless blind people playing through a voice to text interface.

[Maeka]

If level sync balance mattered then Scholar wouldn't exist. Baelsar's Wall isn't balanced around Sheltron because instanced dungeons are balanced around fingerless blind people playing through a voice to text interface.

Right. You're one of -those- people.

Nevermind. I'll simply wait for someone else to come along instead.

[Daniel_Fury]

Yoshida stated the jobs are balanced according to level 70 content. If you buff it due to baelsars wall, it would probably break the level 70 balance.

[Maeka]

Yoshida stated the jobs are balanced according to level 70 content. If you buff it due to baelsars wall, it would probably break the level 70 balance.

It just seems kinda dumb to take away one of the few interesting buttons on the hotbar almost entirely because of a spell you don't get until 64 (why not make the spell available sooner if it is so crucial to the whole setup!?).

So you get Sheltron at 52 but it is useless while Main Tanking (and while Off-Tanking lol) until Level 64, and its only use is while you are Soloing. Okay. That makes sense.

Here's another idea: Holy Spirit available at Lv52-54 instead of 64.

Wouldn't break any sort of balance at Lv70 whatsoever.

EDIT: Also, anybody got numbers as to how much MP HS actually costs? Because um, you need to cast it 2-3 times to get enough Oath for 1 Sheltron, and half of Sheltron's use was to recover MP for, you know, Clemency? Do you even return enough MP to pay for the Holy Spirit casts?

[Dalmacus]

I really like the previous sheltron better. I rather take the 30secs cooldown than this 50 oath bullshit. I swear this oath gauge feels forced upon PLD.