About Esuna, Exalted Detriment and Leeches change

[Ootarion]

Checked your character and you don't even seem to have any healer raid gear so yeah, please tell me more about how I'm the one who doesn't know anything about raid healing and how I am "lazy, irresponsible and unfair".

Because I play and party regularly with one of the best healers Ive ever known, and when we both heal, we share in the burden and both give it our all as any reasonable player would, we dont make one do more work then the other, not in the slightest, if you and your peeps are fine with doing that, that is your choice, but neither myself, nor he, would ever do that, as we would find it lazy, irresponsible and unfair, and we've never told eachother to do less work then the other healer, and I agree with him, if there is more then one healer, you share in the burden.

Also I dont know where you are seeing my profile, but if you are using this Forum's Profile system then hahaha you are wrong, I am lvl 60 as White Mage and Astrologian, I get people praising me for my skill as a healer both In Raids and outside Raids. This forum seems to be showing me as a lvl 55 Conjurer or lvl 47 White Mage or whatever, but lul that system is wrong :P

[Aramina]

Because I play and party regularly with one of the best healers Ive ever known, and when we both heal, we share in the burden and both give it our all as any reasonable player would, we dont make one do more work then the other, not in the slightest, if you and your peeps are fine with doing that, that is your choice, but neither myself, nor he, would ever do that, as we would find it lazy, irresponsible and unfair, and we've never told eachother to do less work then the other healer, and I agree with him, if there is more then one healer, you share in the burden.

Did you read Taika's post? If she and her cohealer attempted to share all responsibility either the tank would die if they were both trying to dispel debuffs, or the dps with debuffs would die if they were both trying to heal the tank. Not sorting who is to focus on what is irresponsible.

But if it is the case, then how is that even remotely both healers doing 100% work?

Because they both did the job they needed to do for the party to win the fight.

[Ootarion]

Did you read Taika's post? If she and her cohealer attempted to share all responsibility either the tank would die if they were both trying to dispel debuffs, or the dps with debuffs would die if they were both trying to heal the tank. Not sorting who is to focus on what is irresponsible.

Because they both did the job they needed to do for the party to win the fight.

Look, I need to point out that when Ive done raids, I make sure people are topped off on health constantly, and when I can, I removed Debuffs as well, and both myself and my friend would do so, we would heal and debuff as needed, there wasnt just one of us doing that, but it probably helped that we were on Voice chat doing so, so we delegated. But we both removed debuffs, and healed, and revived, and people scarcely died. I wouldnt carelessly attempt to remove a debuff first if someone is close to dead, I heal them first then remove a debuff, I do this in 4 person and 8+ person parties, and it's never failed.

Added: Look, Taika, I clearly have offended you, which was never at all my intention from the beginning so for that I apologize. But answer me this, as a healer yourself, with your co healer, are either of you EVER doing both healing and debuff removal? Because in every instance Ive ever done where I had a Co Healer, we've both healed and removed debuffs, and any parties Ive been in, have rarely lost. So forgive me for not seeing the sense in what you are saying. It has never had to apply to parties Ive been in, my success rate is extremely high, so forgive me for my confusion.

[Taika]

Added: Look, Taika, I clearly have offended you, which was never at all my intention from the beginning so for that I apologize. But answer me this, as a healer yourself, with your co healer, are either of you EVER doing both healing and debuff removal?

Don't worry, you haven't offended me! I found it funny.

Like I said, in each fight, we know what will happen in each part and then we agree how it's best to divide our responsibilities in that part. Like in that example: we know that at the same time 2 people will need Esuna and the tank will need healing. If we'd both try to do both without agreeing who does what, we'd risk neglecting one of those tasks. How we divide our responsibilities varies from fight to fight, but in all fights so far we've both at least done some healing at some points. Apart from A9S Faust which he solo heals 100% while I go 100% DPS. The point is, we're both aiming for 100% activity while being as useful as possible to our group as a healer team. Maybe this is enough of off topic now?

Because in every instance Ive ever done where I had a Co Healer, we've both healed and removed debuffs, and any parties Ive been in, have rarely lost. So forgive me for not seeing the sense in what you are saying. It has never had to apply to parties Ive been in, my success rate is extremely high, so forgive me for my confusion.

Have you done any Coil or Alexander Savage while they've been current (pre-echo)? Because that's the context I'm talking about. I understand you're confused if you haven't actually done any content that's challenging enough that the healers will have to split their responsibilities to succeed. But in that case, why talk down about raid healing to people who are actually much more experienced in it than you are...

Don't think of yourself and your cohealer as different entities, think of yourself as a team and what is the most that can be done by that team.

Exactly, you need to work as an actual team instead of two people who are both doing exact same things at exact same times. That's an extremely inefficient way to heal anything.