Launch Trailer Hype Thread

[Khalithar]

So if we accept this as true, that means its a Katana Gatling Gun?

While that would be cool, I think it was more along the lines of a charger, a magical katana charged aetherial wheel style.

[Khalithar]

Meant magitek, can't edit my post above on mobile.

[Lineaelina]

(I also want to say that "Tis better to bend with the wind than stand tall and be broken! Therein lies hope; therein lies freedom" is a different character too, but that's more my hope that that isn't Yotsuyu's actual English voice than anything else, as it's pretty obviously her in Japanese).

I actually thought that "Tis better to bend with the wind than stand tall and be broken." is said by the elderly AuRa we saw in the Revolutions video. Mainly because the voice sounds old and it sounds like an old woman's advice. I sure as hell hope it won't be said by Yotsuyu or her voice is terrible!

[Alien_Gamer]

I'm not sure the WoL gets stomped by Zenos. To me the scene looked more like a precursor to a fight; maybe that he knocked us down or surprised us and now we're about to dust off and pimp smack him. it feels more like a set up of something to come than a result of a struggle if that makes sense.

[LineageRazor]

So if we accept this as true, that means its a Katana Gatling Gun?

I think it's more like a mechanical caddy. Each of the three swords has wildly different properties, and he chooses the weapon based on the opponent. Fighting someone he recognized as a defensive mage, he brought out the magic-breaker katana. In all likelihood, one of the other two is a heavy, armor-breaking katana, and the last a lightweight, precision katana.

I personally suspect that the dark magic aura was inherent to the katana, rather than to the caddy or to Zenos himself. Just an aspect of that particular legendary katana.

[Alleo]

Primals aren't THAT tough.

Do we know that those NPC characters are weak? Also didnt they fight with hundreds of people against a primal (mostly because of the high loss thanks to tempering) And lets not forget that we also fought against primals like Ravana (which needed all the WoD to defeat it later, so cant be that weak) and Thordan with his 12 knights. These knights were highly trained elite knights, so they cant be pushovers. On top of that they were powered by prayers of thousand years, Nidhoggs eye and warring triad. We killed them solo! Before that we defeated Regula alone and put the two Ascians down. We also defeated Nidhogg on our own (with the help of his brothers eye), went against high ranking void creatures like Diablo. We defeated Bahamut (even if he was not of his former strenght) and killed the Warring Triad too. I really have to stretch my believe that after all those feasts we just simply loose to one Garlean in single combat with us being at full strength. And on top of that he does not want to kill us because he wants to fight against someone strong. (Quite the insult)

I hope they don't start using the Echo to 'warn' us of what could happen if the antagonists succeed. I want the antagonists to actually succeed, at least temporarily, otherwise it'd just feel very much like a cop out. It's also another 'X died, but not really' moment along the lines of what we saw with Nanamo and to a lesser extent, Aymeric. Besides, the Echo doesn't need to be powered up further. The Warrior of Light is already ridiculously powerful with many plot conveniences at his disposal. Does he really need more?

Not only that but why should we suddenly have that ability? I mean we had beloved people die on us in HW yet there was no such echo at that moment. So it would leave a bad taste since this ability would just come to us sudden when we did not have it when we could have needed it after the vault (which would make Haurchefants death even more hard for me..) but it would also still leave a bad taste because we still would have lost against one Garlean. Really I hope that there is more to it than "sudden person that can defeat a walking calamity in single combat".

Also a big question remains. If we loose there with all the grand companies on our side..and we travel to Othard which takes months..shouldnt the Empire try to take over Eorzea?

[Cilia]

Just because nobody's brought it up... if we're gonna bandy about XII references... maybe the source of Zenos' monstrous power is something akin​ to Judge Bergan's nethicite augmentation?

Just an idea. Might explain some of his mental instability too.

[EdwinLi]

Just because nobody's brought it up... if we're gonna bandy about XII references... maybe the source of Zenos' monstrous power is something akin​ to Judge Bergan's nethicite augmentation?

Just an idea. Might explain some of his mental instability too.

I doubt Zenos is actuallyinfluenced by some magic to make him this Warmonger. It is stated that before he got his katana weapons was already like this from the very beginning.

Besides the "standard" for being "mentally ill"/"Insane" has always been bound to a person's standard to what is considered "normal" for them even if that "Normal" is just society's expectations.

Zenos is probably one of the most sane person we will ever meet in this game that accepts the reality of "human nature"

[Mysteltain]

I tend to not believe that we did a whole hell of a lot solo. After all, one of the big themes of the game is "strength through unity," so for us to slay Primals and the like on our own goes completely against that. Plus, there are more than a few times that NPCs will outright tell us to gather up some friends before we take on threat-X, Y, or Z (Void Ark and Alexander series comes to mind), and as infrequent and inconsistant as that is, it still makes more sense that we teamed up to take on most major threats.

[LineageRazor]

Zenos is probably one of the most sane person we will ever meet in this game that accepts the reality of "human nature"

It always amuses me when cynics in real life accept this kind of thing as a serious observation of human nature. It pretty much flies in the face of, well, just about all of recorded history. At any point in time, the number of individuals performing violent acts against other humans is hilariously outnumbered by the number of people just living their lives and not intending harm to anyone - and yet we're expected to believe that this tiny minority are the "natural" ones? It's like a real-life variant of the "toxic players" epidemic players rant about in General Discussion. Sure, they're out there - but hardly an epidemic.

Thankfully, the game itself seems to be taking Zenos's observations for what they are: the psychopathic ravings of a monster in human skin.

I tend to not believe that we did a whole hell of a lot solo. After all, one of the big themes of the game is "strength through unity," so for us to slay Primals and the like on our own goes completely against that. Plus, there are more than a few times that NPCs will outright tell us to gather up some friends before we take on threat-X, Y, or Z (Void Ark and Alexander series comes to mind), and as infrequent and inconsistant as that is, it still makes more sense that we teamed up to take on most major threats.

Indeed, the game's storyline is pretty inconsistent when it comes to whether or not we took on these threats solo. (And the actual gameplay, of course, does not support the "solo" theory one iota.) As I've mentioned in other threads, until the game explicitly states otherwise, I get credit for victories over these threats not because I beat them down with my own two hands, but because I lead a team of champions to victory over them. The ability to lead is just as heroic - if not moreso - than pure martial prowess.

Alleo's disbelief that a single Garlean, no matter how powerful, could overcome a hero who single-handedly defeated Nidhogg, Thordan, and the like is a valid one - and because it is valid I take it as further evidence that these victories were NOT single-handed.