Launch Trailer Hype Thread

[Fenral]

Having finally gotten the chance to watch it in Japanese, I'm pretty certain that - totally aside from the usual localization liberties - at least two lines are spoken by entirely different characters between it and the English version. Gosetsu's line about causes and battlefields is definitely occupied by a different character in Japanese, and I'm fairly certain the final line of the trailer is a different one as well. Is anybody whose Japanese is more at the FFXIV level able to give us a comparative analysis?

Line about causes and battlefields is more or less the same, but spoken by Alphinaud, not Gosetsu. Safe to say he won't be going anywhere, even if the trailers try to throw us off.

Final line is still Zenos, except it's more along the lines of "I have no use for the weak but as fodder for my blade. Let me see you withstand my [mumblemumble]." Acting a little too hard there, Kousuke Toriumi.

[Lineaelina]

(I also want to say that "Tis better to bend with the wind than stand tall and be broken! Therein lies hope; therein lies freedom" is a different character too, but that's more my hope that that isn't Yotsuyu's actual English voice than anything else, as it's pretty obviously her in Japanese).

I actually thought that "Tis better to bend with the wind than stand tall and be broken." is said by the elderly AuRa we saw in the Revolutions video. Mainly because the voice sounds old and it sounds like an old woman's advice. I sure as hell hope it won't be said by Yotsuyu or her voice is terrible!

[Alleo]

I really hope that there is some good reason for us to loose against Zenos other than "plot demands it". Yes we often go against primals and have an advantage thanks to the echo but the only thing it does is protecting us from the tempering. And the blessing itself might make us a bit stronger but even after we lost our blessing we still kicked ass like before and at the end we were able to defeat Thordan and his 12 knights, which were all very highly skilled warriors even without their primal form. We did this solo too. So we kinda are able to stand against 13 people simultaneous that are also high on many many prayers and yet we loose against Zenos? I mean we dont even fight alone, we have the scions and other people on our back too.

We also seemingly are spared by him since he wants to go against someone worthy? Isnt that one heck of a insult?

I can understand that it can get really boring to go against anybody and always win but for that you normally have some kind of power latter that you climb. For example if we saw in One Piece that Luffy is able to defeat a highly skilled Yonko and later looses against a common captain than this would be unbelievable (only acceptable if there is some kind of well thought out reason). Its on SE that they choose to let us defeat monsters like Thordan and Nidhogg in 3.0 already, so that in any way a defeat by a mere mortal is kinda ugh. Especially if its only one person.

So I do really hope that there is more to this scene. Maybe we are weakened through something beforehand (like drinking something poison like just to fuel our trauma even more) or Zenos is powered up by something. Or maybe we are finally protecting someone which render us helpless against an attack. (Or maybe Derplander should go back to being a dragoon, seems he cant handle his stacks)

Fordola is also quite savage. She just killed that old guy when his back was turned, so she really does not come over as a honorary fighter. (Strangely Zenos spares us because he wants someone worthy, yet she skills people that are not even facing her)

Nice to see a hint of Estinien, yet at the same time I fear for his life. There is only one NPC alive that I truly really like, yet I also care a bit about Estinien and his death would be sad. I am also afraid about Alphinaud. He was in some scenes in the other trailer but not in this one. He also protects his sister..I dare you SE..he is the last one of my true favorites..dont kill him off.

Maybe this sounds bad or something but I would not really care if anyone else dies. I did found the trailer a bit too spoilerish especially with Y`shtola, not because of her "death" but more because her shield breaking would have been a nice surprise in the game. IMO they should have stopped at her looking surprised before the shield breaks thus we would be kinda "D:" when it happens ingame. Since she is the mascot of this game I believe she somehow will survive such a wound..other characters would have probably been death after that.

(The wolf people and the primal of the snake tribe are those points that I liked the most about this trailer)

[LineageRazor]

I really hope that there is some good reason for us to loose against Zenos other than "plot demands it". Yes we often go against primals and have an advantage thanks to the echo but the only thing it does is protecting us from the tempering.

Primals aren't THAT tough. Remember that a band of ordinary NPC heroes (Brayflox and all them) were able to take down Titan. The main difference is that such heroes do so at extremely high personal risk, due to the possibility (inevitability, if the fight goes on long enough) of being tempered. I think it's likely that Zenos could easily take down Primals if he tried, but the risk of his becoming tempered in the process is just too high. Strong as the WoL is, there are still folks out there just as strong or stronger.

[Alleo]

Primals aren't THAT tough.

Do we know that those NPC characters are weak? Also didnt they fight with hundreds of people against a primal (mostly because of the high loss thanks to tempering) And lets not forget that we also fought against primals like Ravana (which needed all the WoD to defeat it later, so cant be that weak) and Thordan with his 12 knights. These knights were highly trained elite knights, so they cant be pushovers. On top of that they were powered by prayers of thousand years, Nidhoggs eye and warring triad. We killed them solo! Before that we defeated Regula alone and put the two Ascians down. We also defeated Nidhogg on our own (with the help of his brothers eye), went against high ranking void creatures like Diablo. We defeated Bahamut (even if he was not of his former strenght) and killed the Warring Triad too. I really have to stretch my believe that after all those feasts we just simply loose to one Garlean in single combat with us being at full strength. And on top of that he does not want to kill us because he wants to fight against someone strong. (Quite the insult)

I hope they don't start using the Echo to 'warn' us of what could happen if the antagonists succeed. I want the antagonists to actually succeed, at least temporarily, otherwise it'd just feel very much like a cop out. It's also another 'X died, but not really' moment along the lines of what we saw with Nanamo and to a lesser extent, Aymeric. Besides, the Echo doesn't need to be powered up further. The Warrior of Light is already ridiculously powerful with many plot conveniences at his disposal. Does he really need more?

Not only that but why should we suddenly have that ability? I mean we had beloved people die on us in HW yet there was no such echo at that moment. So it would leave a bad taste since this ability would just come to us sudden when we did not have it when we could have needed it after the vault (which would make Haurchefants death even more hard for me..) but it would also still leave a bad taste because we still would have lost against one Garlean. Really I hope that there is more to it than "sudden person that can defeat a walking calamity in single combat".

Also a big question remains. If we loose there with all the grand companies on our side..and we travel to Othard which takes months..shouldnt the Empire try to take over Eorzea?

[Soyre_Monre]

Don't you think that the initial battle against Ala migho, Zenos and Fordola that ends with that massacre could be a vision of the echo warning us? I mean, it happen VERY soon in the story (since at level 63 we have already reached Kugane and ruby sea - the new underwater dungeon is lv.63) and i don't think we'll have time to go across the first area of Gyr Abania, reach Rhalgr's reach, prepare the attack, go to The Lochs to start the war AND both fail the attempt and have Zenos/Fordola destroy the resistance in Rhalgr's Reach. All of this in less than 2 levels?

In top of this, those scenes looks a bit faded/greyed and the text "yet they could not see the sword above their heads" might hint at that.

I believe that the resistance losing the war is just a vision of the echo > We learn that Zenos is too powerful/his katanas hold some secret power > We travel to Othard in search of allies and information.

[RukiaFae]

Can we see the future with echo? I thought we could only see the past. I think we are going to Ala Migho first and get nearly destroyed. This will send us scattering to Doma for help. I only think this because every video shows us taking this route and they said liberating Ala Migho is going to take work. Level 63 is plenty of time if you take HW into mind. At 53 we were already in Dravania. We had seen Ishgard, WCH, and Cloud top in those 3 levels. (Sorry I know I spelled the areas wrong)

[Dualblade]

Can we see the future with echo?

If I remember right Minfillia was able to see into the future. Not far future to my understanding but if that part when Zenos just curbstomps everyone is a future Echo vision Minfillia probably could have seen it if she were around right now. Its possible we have that same power just that it doesn't activate nearly as much as being able to see the past. That said it probably isn't an Echo thing but us actually getting our butts kicked.

So I'm dumb/possibly blind. Where's everyone seeing Estinien? o.o

I NEED HIS GORGEOUS FACE IN MY LIFE AGAIN. QQ

(Yes, big awesome trailer, lots of boom. Lots of pow. Lots of pretty lights. And this is all I have to say for it. But really, you guys are better at lore theorycrafting than I am. <3)

Near the end of the video you will see a brief shot of a Dragoon. You don't see his head but the most prominent non-WoL Dragoon is Estinien...and the promotional WoL is no longer a Dragoon.

[Miyha]

Near the end of the video you will see a brief shot of a Dragoon. You don't see his head but the most prominent non-WoL Dragoon is Estinien...and the promotional WoL is no longer a Dragoon.

Ahhh, thank you! :'D

I am still of the opinion that it would be totally awesome if Estinien joined the Scions. There's my speculation/hope for 4.0. :P

[Rokke]

Near the end of the video you will see a brief shot of a Dragoon. You don't see his head but the most prominent non-WoL Dragoon is Estinien...and the promotional WoL is no longer a Dragoon.

Plus his corrupted Gaebolg is in the shot too