Launch Trailer Hype Thread

[RukiaFae]

Can we see the future with echo? I thought we could only see the past. I think we are going to Ala Migho first and get nearly destroyed. This will send us scattering to Doma for help. I only think this because every video shows us taking this route and they said liberating Ala Migho is going to take work. Level 63 is plenty of time if you take HW into mind. At 53 we were already in Dravania. We had seen Ishgard, WCH, and Cloud top in those 3 levels. (Sorry I know I spelled the areas wrong)

[Dualblade]

Can we see the future with echo?

If I remember right Minfillia was able to see into the future. Not far future to my understanding but if that part when Zenos just curbstomps everyone is a future Echo vision Minfillia probably could have seen it if she were around right now. Its possible we have that same power just that it doesn't activate nearly as much as being able to see the past. That said it probably isn't an Echo thing but us actually getting our butts kicked.

So I'm dumb/possibly blind. Where's everyone seeing Estinien? o.o

I NEED HIS GORGEOUS FACE IN MY LIFE AGAIN. QQ

(Yes, big awesome trailer, lots of boom. Lots of pow. Lots of pretty lights. And this is all I have to say for it. But really, you guys are better at lore theorycrafting than I am. <3)

Near the end of the video you will see a brief shot of a Dragoon. You don't see his head but the most prominent non-WoL Dragoon is Estinien...and the promotional WoL is no longer a Dragoon.

[Miyha]

Near the end of the video you will see a brief shot of a Dragoon. You don't see his head but the most prominent non-WoL Dragoon is Estinien...and the promotional WoL is no longer a Dragoon.

Ahhh, thank you! :'D

I am still of the opinion that it would be totally awesome if Estinien joined the Scions. There's my speculation/hope for 4.0. :P

[Rokke]

Near the end of the video you will see a brief shot of a Dragoon. You don't see his head but the most prominent non-WoL Dragoon is Estinien...and the promotional WoL is no longer a Dragoon.

Plus his corrupted Gaebolg is in the shot too

[Enkidoh]

If I remember right Minfillia was able to see into the future. Not far future to my understanding but if that part when Zenos just curbstomps everyone is a future Echo vision Minfillia probably could have seen it if she were around right now. Its possible we have that same power just that it doesn't activate nearly as much as being able to see the past. That said it probably isn't an Echo thing but us actually getting our butts kicked.

Not that I don't believe you, but it's my understanding that the Echo cannot see into the future because that is not how it works - it's not actually viewing the past or future, but breaking down the boundaries of the soul, it views 'the past' because it's viewing someone's memories of a past event that has already happened, not the actual past itself (this is why Echo visions were changed in ARR to a grainy washed out video-feed style).

For that reason, the Echo cannot view the future because the future has not happened yet and thus, no memory yet exists of it. Of course there was that ambiguous 'dark Hydaelyn' Echo image we saw in the 'stinger' scene at the end of the original 2.0 storyline, but it had no context or explanation, and it's unclear whether it was meant to be the 'past' or 'future' (nor was it ever mentioned or referred to again, so personally I believe it was a possible story idea that the writing and lore teams were toying with only to quietly drop).

Also this does not take into account actual time travel though, but that is a whole different barrel of moogles.

Either way, I think it's a little rash to judge the events being depicted in the Stormblood trailer as actually chronologically true to the expansion - the Heavensward trailer after all had scenes mixed and matched all over the place with little context to the actual order they appeared in the expansion (such as showing the player relighting all the Crystals immediately after the padjal magically evoking the elementals to bring Y'shtola from the Lifestream, despite those scenes being at totally different parts of the storyline). We'll find out soon enough anyway after all.

[Dualblade]

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Honestly it might be best to just toss out everything I said about the Echo and Minfillia there, I think I'm just confusing it with something else.