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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Comes down to Power and what a system is able to access and load, Switch would struggle with Stormblood and we would be back to less inventory space, lol
    If Yoshi thinks stormblood isnt possible on Switch he wouldnt take it into account.
    He is not an amateur, so his hardware team.

    Secondly: inventory space has nothing to do with the performance of a system.. moreover of server capacities.
    Such bullshit..

    Thirdly: the Nintendo Switch has MUCH more RAM than the PS3 .. and RAM is the most important thing for a MMorpg.
    That was the major issue the team of Yoshida talked about when they worked on the PS3 version of FFXIV back then and why they made the zones smaller. And in the end also why they dropped the PS3 version.

    RAM comparison PS3 <> Nintendo Switch:


    PS3 RAM: 256 MB DDR3
    Switch: 4 GB RAM LPDDR4


    in short words: the PS3 is an old horse vs the Switch Handheld.

    HUGE difference.. The Switch is technically in between of PS3 / PS4. And im sure the switch could run FFXIV Stormblood without any problems, but maybe not on highest settings if you want 30-60 fps thats for sure. But that wouldnt cause any limitations for the other plattforms. The graphics engine stays the same and we wont get back to the graphics detail of "1.0." (before ARR) where a flower pot contained over 1000 polygons alone.(the polygon amount of a NPC)



    To that detail we wont ever get back. First: they would need to re-do all old regions (which would be like developing a new game) and secondly: they want to have a MMORPG that everyone can play on their shitty old ass PC's, just like WoW

    And as i said just stop that bullshit bashing around the Switch as shown in the technical facts the Nintendo Switch is much powerful than the PS3.. especially when it comes to RAM (PS3 250MB DDR3 vs Switch 4GB LPDDR4 RAM) - the most important thing for a MMorpg.

    Additionally FFXIV would run on a flash drive which result in shorter loading times etc.
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 06-08-2017 at 03:21 AM.

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    Well the thing is that MS had FFXI going for years on Xbox. And that cross played with PS2 and windows.
    And a switch is better than a PS3. But I don't think it needs to be a thing either. Honestly, more options isn't bad. they just need to put restrictions into the "weaker" options.
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    I love my switch, and playing it on the couch or wherever would be pretty cool, but I don't want the game to be held back by console restrictions.
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    Guys, What we need is a "Remote Play" support for the Switch. Have XIV team make a downloaded app, that COULD allow you to stream from your PC to switch or so. That would be neat. Too bad wont happen anytime soon. Guess Ill keep playing XIV off my iPad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    PS3 RAM: 256 MB DDR3
    Switch: 4GB RAM LPDDR4

    HUGE difference..
    If you are gonna continue to edit the crap out of your post, change fonts and bold stuff, at least have the correct specs:

    PS3: 256MB XDR RAM - System, 256MB GDDR3 VRAM
    Switch: 4GB LPDDR4 (Unified/shared between the CPU and GPU)

    If you are going to mention YoshiP's talk on PS3 Development and its challenges, it was more that just system memory.

    Nintendo's direct competitors are 8GB or more, not using LPDDR, and their console specs will have a longer cycle with the title.
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    They just dropped PS3 support to get rid of some limitations, they wouldn't want to bring said limitations back with consoles like the Xbox One or Nintendo Switch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticales View Post
    Guys, What we need is a "Remote Play" support for the Switch. Have XIV team make a downloaded app, that COULD allow you to stream from your PC to switch or so. That would be neat. Too bad wont happen anytime soon. Guess Ill keep playing XIV off my iPad.
    Actually, a company is working on something like that as we speak. Look up rainway, it's pretty promising. So whether or not the switch has an actual port doesn't really matter, switch owners would be able to play it anyway.
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    eh to be honest i dont see it happening cas switch has horrible online support right now an Microsoft are jerks that bully companies in to our way or the highway situations
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    If you are gonna continue to edit the crap out of your post, change fonts and bold stuff, at least have the correct specs:

    PS3: 256MB XDR RAM - System, 256MB GDDR3 VRAM
    Switch: 4GB LPDDR4 (Unified/shared between the CPU and GPU)
    Aye right... that makes the Switch obviously slower than a PS3 with 256 MB RAM... not..

    And even its Tegra X1 graphics core is the more powerful GPU

    If you are going to mention YoshiP's talk on PS3 Development and its challenges, it was more that just system memory.
    I play FFXIV since version 1.0. and i watched many videos back then and interviews on the ARR development and YEs... it was THE major issue on PS3.

    and their console specs will have a longer cycle with the title.
    The game itself wont improve much when it comes to graphics, the environment will stay as low polygon as it is right now. As i said we wont ever go back to 1.0. graphics quality. There is not such a revamp in MMorpg history - and i play MMorpgs since 2000..

    and if you havent recognized it yet: the support of PS3 is already gone. Which means the ""full power"" of PS4 and PC is already used in stormblood.


    Quote Originally Posted by Amnesiac View Post
    They just dropped PS3 support to get rid of some limitations, they wouldn't want to bring said limitations back with consoles like the Xbox One or Nintendo Switch.
    And you do know that XBox one and PS4 arent away from each other worlds apart?

    And if they would implement a Switch version do you think they would "limit" stormblood, cutting it into small zones in order to run on the switch? Like you say "bring back limitations"

    The people's thoughts and logic seems very endless...
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 06-08-2017 at 06:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticales View Post
    Guys, What we need is a "Remote Play" support for the Switch. Have XIV team make a downloaded app, that COULD allow you to stream from your PC to switch or so. That would be neat. Too bad wont happen anytime soon. Guess Ill keep playing XIV off my iPad.
    If you wouldn't mind answering, how is it possible to play FFXIV from an iPad? Is it actually good enough to run content with? Or just to do maybe crafting and/or gathering? Or do inventory management tasks?
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