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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    In the case of the Switch, I imagine that the Tegra platform actually would allow SE to port FFXIV over easier because it uses the nVidia gameworks libraries. nVidia claims the GPU is more powerful than one found in the Xbox 360 or PS3, but that's still speculation because mobile devices typically have power requirements to allow it to run on battery, and you are hard pressed to get "PS3" performance out of a mobile device without it being plugged into a charger full time.
    The Tegra X1 reduces its clock speed to around 307MHz when "undocked". This is why Zelda FPS rates range from 15-30 "mobile". Docked it is around the 770Mhz range. If SE had the option they would make the game play in docked mode only, as the poor FPS undocked would be horrible for the player and their party would likely suffer from it as well. However, if Nintendo Switch Policy states titles must be playable in Docked and Undocked mode, why would SE even bother.

    Realize I do not know Nintendo's Switch Development Policies.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    The PS4 compatibility of mouse and keyboard for FFXIV came MUCH MUCH later...
    It came with the launch of the PS4 version.
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    Last edited by Felis; 06-08-2017 at 12:27 PM.

  3. #83
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    the Switch would be one of the worst descisions SE could make to bring XIV to. We finally just dumped PS3 support and that would be like re supporting it and would gimp PS4 and PC quality. Would be nice to have it on Xbox especially with the Scorpio coming soonish but the biggest road block atm is Microsoft isn't opposed to allowing XIV on their console but they require an option to be in the game to only play with other Xbox owners and Xbox gold subscription.

    SE woun't budge on the having to make completely seperate servers just for Xbox players
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
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    Honestly I brought my point up for laughs but people seem personally vested in Sony and/or Microsoft for some reason which I have no idea. I did make a douchey post so sorry about that I was snarky and I shouldn't have been. I have both consoles and use windows and mac computers so I don't give a damn. I read some articles regarding development since the PS4 and XBOX ONE have been released and it does look like Sony is now more open than Microsoft for development. This was absolutely completely opposite case back on PS2/Xbox and PS3/Xbox 360 design. Your point seems to be that MS is anti-competitive and it is definitely the case lol but that's not what I was going at.

    Anyway regarding your points since you brought them up, having a locked boot process has 0 to do with what your system can run. Old Power IBMs and Macs both used openfirmware but you couldn't run AIX on a mac or Mac OS on a P series IBM yet they ran the same hardware...and DEC Alphastations were the same exact thing for the Tru64 and Windows NT version the only difference was one allowed you to boot one the other you could boot both. Also, FreeBSD is free however the reason they use it is because you can modify the code and don't have to release it as you would with something licensed with the GPL. Also their graphics stack is proprietary so it's not really a good example. (yeah I know directx is proprietary but you can get a book at the library for it I mean readily available). This is just me rambling and going on about things lol. I used to be a bit of a computer collector so I've had all sorts of crazy stuff.

    PS4 probably has a bigger market overall, but Xbox is still a very solid market here.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    The Team wanted smaller more detailed zones while maintaining stable server loads VS Mass over usage of texture instancing in Large zones.
    You are mixing stuff that doesn't belong together.

    Serverside a zone is nothing else than a table of coordinates where players, mobs, fates and so on are located.

    The other stuff you tell is client side only. The server has absolutely nothing to do with objects or textures that get drawn or other visuals.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    You are mixing stuff that doesn't belong together.

    Serverside a zone is nothing else than a table of coordinates where players, mobs, fates and so on are located.

    The other stuff you tell is client side only. The server has absolutely nothing to do with objects or textures that get drawn or other visuals.
    The point of my statement if you read the conversation is simple. The PS3 was not the major reason for ARR's zones being smaller than 1.0, it was several major reasons, which I pointed out 2 critical ones. The user I was responding to clearly did not follow the development of ARR regarding zone redesign.

    You are mixing 2 of my points together when they are separate.

    - Server side checks were considered in the Zone redesign as players actively engage in them which does put loads on the servers and the addition stress of the new FATE System.

    - My visuals statement wasn't regarding the server at all. It specifically talked about more detailed zones and less use of texture instancing. Compared to 1.0s large zones, with few details and a massive overuse of texture instancing.
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    Last edited by ReplicaX; 06-08-2017 at 11:42 PM. Reason: clarified

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyraele View Post
    If you wouldn't mind answering, how is it possible to play FFXIV from an iPad? Is it actually good enough to run content with? Or just to do maybe crafting and/or gathering? Or do inventory management tasks?
    Playcast for PS4 or Splashtop with the gamepad. Adjust the sensitivity for things so camera doesnt spin as fast. Works 100% fine. Have some good macros for combos you may need. That or pair a controller to it. Play that way. I use an ipad pro 9.7 with LTE. So yea, Im always online even when I shouldnt be at work. =p
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emorelle View Post
    I just read that Yoshi is still in talks for the Xbox and SWITCH versions. I'm totally not trolling here but didn't we just get rid of the ps3 for power reasons? Is the switch powerful enough to run XIV decently? Would Nintendo ever give up control to allow XIV to do what it does? Discuss!
    Microsoft wants it but have a extra server to be xbox only as well. SE is 100% against atm and wants everyone together so i dont see happening, switch is more likely but its actually just a nividia shield and tad better than a ps3! No point in switching ps3 for a switch switch port in many eyes atm!
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    I believe we will see Balthier in Eorzea one day!

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    The WiiU e more powerfull than PS3 and Switch is more powerfull than WiiU. A switch version should be awesome. Play FFXIV anywhere? Sign me in!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    The WiiU e more powerfull than PS3 and Switch is more powerfull than WiiU. A switch version should be awesome. Play FFXIV anywhere? Sign me in!
    More powerful than a PS3! a WiiU! Play it from anywhere in undocked mode by losing 60% of its GPU!
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