We're all DDs now >.>

[akaneakki]

The fact

The fact you just heal, doesn't mean you are a good one. There are times I would pull a lot and even use cooldown and still die. Where a good/great healer knows when damage comes, knows when to dps and when to stop. Personal experience most raw healers tend to be worse. They just think damage is random when it's actually scripted. So sitting around not using the tools you have isn't any better. Let me ask you this. Can you solo heal 10s? An example.

[Ama_Hamada]

The fact you just heal, doesn't mean you are a good one. There are times I would pull a lot and even use cooldown and still die. Where a good/great healer knows when damage comes, knows when to dps and when to stop. Personal experience most raw healers tend to be worse. They just think damage is random when it's actually scripted. So sitting around not using the tools you have isn't any better. Let me ask you this. Can you solo heal 10s? An example.

She never seen a10N let alone a10S and how do you solo that with the prey mechanic? I am guessing asking people to adjust to random target? is too much for a PF to ask for (remeber your speaking to i190 gear so they are locked out of all current content)

[akaneakki]

nt)

With 1 healer you have person with prey to either Ranged or tank. I would go with tanks for less dmg while melee stand between x2 fire puddles. And bullshit that she says people die in 5 second. Me and the ast did over 1.3k dps before numbers in 11s. In fact never left cleric for nearly a min and half. I know when damage comes and not. Kinda funny the fact Sch in my seller linkshell does 1.4k dps in 12s while second healer is at 900. Hmmmmm....

[missybee]

If someone is playing a healer, they have no down time or the party would be dead in 5 seconds.

I said this in my last post - at the beginning of a massive pull, it MIGHT be kind of hard to DPS while keeping the tank alive, but after a few mobs have died, there should be no issues.

With regard to most boss fights - if you aren't DPSing during those, what the heck are you doing?

People aren't making these "stories" of healer down time up. If you don't have down time, it's because you aren't playing to the job's full potential, and if you don't try to improve or at least entertain opposing viewpoints, you are being childish and lazy.

[FoxyAreku]

Welcome to 2 years ago. And probably even before that.

The community's skill level just keeps slowly rising, and with it, its expectations of others.

[Shurrikhan]

The fact that you can even describe a parser tells me you've used one. Every data-mined thing about this game was acquired via such activity. So no, it's only obvious that someone is not playing to their potential when they are not even trying.

If someone is playing a healer, they have no down time or the party would be dead in 5 seconds. People who are accusing non-DPS'ing healers of being lazy, have no idea how the other person is playing the game, and telling them to use whatever some wiki says, does not teach them the mechanics of the game, it only tells them you think they are not smart enough to play the game at all.

Data-mining and parsing are two different things. One is finding, typically hidden, factual information such as skill effects, item stats, animations, skins, or music before its official release. The other is, effectively, an automated spreadsheet.

And how the hell did you reach level 60 without personally finding fault in that idea? The party would inevitably die within 5 seconds of a healer not healing? Literally, what? I seriously have to wonder if you're using a borrowed account that you have yet to heal more than a couple instances on, and all with particularly poor parties atop incredibly inefficient healing.

[Sorciechan]

You were saying?

I'm sorry. I'm probably late here, but I just wanna point this out, since it seems that this picture here has been used out of context, and it's bugging me, cause it makes it seem like ppl just got that pic from the FFXIV memes twitter.

Sylphie here wasn't in trouble because she "didn't dps moar". She was doing what her mother was doing that got her killed, by using her own essence as a catalyst for her healing spells, instead of Nature, itself. Sylphie and her mother actively ignored their studies to attune to nature, because they thought that in doing so, they would be slowly killing it.

I'm not trying to knock the cs dance (although, I will admit, I'd rather heal and stand to get mp back/keep hate off me than switch the CS at the exact moment one or all of ppl in my group decided that you wanna eat aoe damage), but ya gotta stop using this picture.

[Jeycht]

That topic is still up?
You should stop answering to that Kisai guy. He is either trolling or ignorant. Anyway he will probably never admit being wrong and keep repeating the same thing over and over.
I haven't seen any real post from that player except troll-like post.

[Lambdafish]

That topic is still up?
You should stop answering to that Kisai guy. He is either trolling or ignorant. Anyway he will probably never admit being wrong and keep repeating the same thing over and over.
I haven't seen any real post from that player except troll-like post.

Stormblood isn't out for another 10 days, I need some way to stay entertained

[Hamada]

With 1 healer you have person with prey to either Ranged or tank. I would go with tanks for less dmg while melee stand between x2 fire puddles. And bullshit that she says people die in 5 second. Me and the ast did over 1.3k dps before numbers in 11s. In fact never left cleric for nearly a min and half. I know when damage comes and not. Kinda funny the fact Sch in my seller linkshell does 1.4k dps in 12s while second healer is at 900. Hmmmmm....

This is a static though right? If the tag for the other pray (not the person you trade it to) is random then I think that is asking too much from PF, but after tagged for the first time it is the same person?

KisaiTenshi, do you really lack the ability to see who is doing poor DPS? I mean if you have a lot of experience you learn how fast things can die, what jobs do what, etc.

Requoting since too much posts passed by for them to see it:

Nope:

Yeah!! I can as well, it only takes the end of the first pull (maybe even during the first pull) to tell how good the other 3 members are. If it is slow I start looking exactly the reason is. Is the DRG keeping heavy thrust on? Is the MNK keeping GL3 on? is the mnk consistently high tp? does the mnk have enmityon different monsters? (I seen a pure single target mnk and I called out on it since I noticed him tanking one monster while having no hate on everything else) is the BLm casting fire II/flare? thunder? Is the 1092132219832981981 bad brd spamming wide volley, is the brd full mp? ... there is lots of clues you can see, you just think people can't know because your awareness is weak along with your observation skills and innate clock (things taking longer then normal what is going on?)

You want an example that people do this?:
https://youtu.be/eC8PuW58I-M?t=104
She selected herself on purpose to see if people where doing enough damage to the collar (and they weren't, making the SMN doing all the work) It is important to know what is going on and who may be a weak link so if a wipe happens you can coach them. (if that collar is not destroyed fast enough the healer dies)



You just watched a video on why this is WRONG!, it is EASY to see the fight is slow because of bad tank and mnk FFS has nothing to do with healer dps.

Stop throwing around stawmans, You said large downtime is a myth, admitting that is wrong now?

Do you read what people say here at all? Is my own enmity high compared to the tank? are they are grit dropping/ deliverance switching tank to have my enmity higher then normal to theirs? Are they eating too much Mp for me to comment? There is lots of things you can tell without prasers, quit throwing out red herrings and admit being wrong about healer DPS. It is quite clear you are just beating around the bush trying to keep alive.

large healing downtime is not a myth, something else you seem to be dodging. There is videos showing it is not a myth, where are the videos on your play style?