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  1. #161
    Player Mindiori's Avatar
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    Reika Hanehara
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    From an outsiders perspective, at least as far as the game itself goes, I don't think its hard to imagine this news putting a lot of people off even further (considering the WHM explosion, qq my boring summoner and so forth).

    This game, although using a very different server system than other popular mmos (which now run megaservers), is already alot quieter throughout the days I pop in and out. If we go on other games forums, generic mmo forums and so on; what FFXIV is 'known' for (indeed, respected for) is its PvE dungeon/raid content).

    Like them or not, they were clearly done very well in comparison to offerings elsewhere. Diminishing them in any way, will have an effect. Like it or not.

    As someone who does enjoy them, I can see the game holding less of my attention. Naturally I prefer games like ESO for PvP (faster play) but when games like it, only really fall short of FFXIV because of those dungeons? Well FFXIV starts to offer far less. Especially when you recall that many games are f2p/b2p as well. The reasons to go with the sub start to decrease.

    Seems unfair that you bicker like children about whether or not people should like dungeons. Its subjective. However that said; it is completely true that this game is not KNOWN for things like POTD and its other content. Because they are not of the same development caliber. Far beit for me to pointlessly doomsay, some things in this update do seem lackluster (WHM here?) and that will be compounded further if the new content is not a good replacement for whats lost.

    I never get the impression that this community really knows what to expect. Which is a problem. Considering what you all invest financially.
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  2. #162
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    Irvy Ryath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaoticsuccubus View Post
    Floor layout? Like whether there are 3 rooms or 10?

    I guess... I don't count though since every room is practically identical to the last it all just blurs together. Only replay value PotD has for me is it's the fastest way to level... and maybe grind tomes if i want an even easier experience and don't want to deal with bads. Bads in dungeons make the whole experience more painful or impossible, bads in PotD don't matter in the slightest... they're just extra meat to soak up damage for me anyway lol ;P
    RNG in floor layout as in the objectives are never in the same place. Obviously the current iteration of PoTD is very rough around the edges because it was a sort of experiment, one can only hope that the next one will be allocated more ressources.

    But I'd take any day PoTD like content over any HW corridor dungeons.
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  3. #163
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    People in this thread, "Dungeons are boring! AE pulls, yawn! No mechanics necessary!"

    Also people in this thread, "Palace of the Dead is incredible! I love never having to do more than 25% of my rotation and the most engaging mechanic is having to sit on a stun in case something paths into us."

    ?????????????????????
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  4. #164
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    Irvy Ryath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    People in this thread, "Dungeons are boring! AE pulls, yawn! No mechanics necessary!"

    Also people in this thread, "Palace of the Dead is incredible! I love never having to do more than 25% of my rotation and the most engaging mechanic is having to sit on a stun in case something paths into us."

    ?????????????????????
    Last time I checked PoTD didn't stop at floor 100.
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  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    Last time I checked PoTD didn't stop at floor 100.
    Floor 101+ are just reskinned floor 1-100 with scaling health and damage.

    Literally the same shit in more punishing. Double/triple the health and damage of dungeon mobs and you get a similar level of "engagement".
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  6. #166
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    Adagio Blaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    Last time I checked PoTD didn't stop at floor 100.
    IIRC floors 101+ don't give rewards.
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  7. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Floor 101+ are just reskinned floor 1-100 with scaling health and damage.

    Literally the same shit in more punishing.
    I d like to see you reach floor 200 while doing 25 % of your rotation. Also, 4 men dungeons in HW aren't more interesting nor difficult.

    IIRC floors 101+ don't give rewards.
    I was pretty sure a mount dropped there.
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  8. #168
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    Usalia Killia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Floor 101+ are just reskinned floor 1-100 with scaling health and damage.

    Literally the same shit in more punishing. Double/triple the health and damage of dungeon mobs and you get a similar level of "engagement".
    yes 1 to 1 what the dungeons she don't like so much doing .
    make you think what the same people will say if doing a dungeon was faster that doing potd runs.
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  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by usalia View Post
    yes 1 to 1 what the dungeons she don't like so much doing .
    make you think what the same people will say if doing a dungeon was faster that doing potd runs.
    What you overlook is that POTD isn't only about zerging monsters, it's also about scouting the levels and optimizing the use of pomanders, especially in levels 100 +. Stuff you typically don't think about while running the corridors people call dungeons in FFXIV.
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  10. #170
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    Usalia Killia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    What you overlook is that POTD isn't only about zerging monsters, it's also about scouting the levels and optimizing the use of pomanders, especially in levels 100 +. Stuff you typically don't think about while running the corridors people call dungeons in FFXIV.
    last time i looked 90% of time peopel speed run it and give no care to even take the pomanders.as fr monster zerg i never sayed its a good part of dungeons.
    but please tell me why we get 1 and not 3/2 now? they didnt need to do his in ARR
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