This is just appalling

[Araxes]

Im perfectly fine with SE putting Tons of Glamours in the Mog Store as long as its Glamour and NO REAL Armor with high end Stats.

[Aramina]

I think movie theatre concessions are too expensive. What do I do? Refuse to buy anything at the concessions. What do I not do? Criticize other people for buying stuff.

[Kuroneko_Jutah]

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A. The server move was announced in advance by several months. There was an entire post by Yoshida explaining his reasoning for this.

B. The "weird gameplay changes" have been spoken of by the dev team for several months, almost an entire year, in fact. Personally I don't fault them for holding their cards this close to the chest, people on these forums are downright unreasonable and will throw a fit over anything.

C. Cash shop has literally functioned like this the entire time, there's nothing new about it. The argument just starts all over again every. single. time. more items are added to it.

D. If there's a new manager "looking to maximize profit" there hasn't been any staffing changes of note announced by SE.

Y'all need to take a damn chill pill.

[SendohJin]

I think movie theatre concessions are too expensive. What do I do? Refuse to buy anything at the concessions. What do I not do? Criticize other people for buying stuff.

not even remotely the same. your movie ticket doesn't automatically come with free concessions. our subscription comes with mounts and emotes and equipment.

you're one of those people who love paying baggage fees for airlines and getting less leg room at the same time right?

[Aramina]

not even remotely the same. your movie ticket doesn't automatically come with free concessions. our subscription comes with mounts and emotes and equipment.

you're one of those people who love paying baggage fees for airlines and getting less leg room at the same time right?

You're one of those people that thinks your sub pays for a lot more than you actually agreed to, right? A movie ticket grants you access to the movie. A sub grants you access to the game. Period.

You can argue all you want, but maybe you shouldn't agree to things without reading/understanding what you are agreeing to.

4.1 FINAL FANTASY XIV Subscription Fees. In order to access SQUARE ENIX's servers to play the Game, you must agree to a recurring subscription ("Subscription") with a minimum subscription term of 30 days, and pay a recurring subscription fee ("FFXIV Subscription Fee"). Square Enix may offer different subscription plans in its sole discretion. Further, Square Enix may offer you the chance to purchase additional features for your FFXIV Service Account, which we call "Add-ons" or "Options." Add-ons may be subject to either additional recurring fees or one-time fees. A "Recurring Fee" is a fee that will be charged on a recurring basis until you terminate your subscription. A "One-Time Fee" is fee that is only charged once. All fee rates will be posted at http://sqex.to/ffxiv.na.fees and any changes to Recurring Fee rates will be posted with 30 days' advance notice and notice will be provided to the Game community. Square Enix may change fee rates at any time in its sole discretion, and will use reasonable efforts to notify you at least 30 days in advance of any changes to any Recurring Fees. All FFXIV Subscription Fees are billed in advance. All FFXIV Subscription Fees are non-refundable, with the limited exception in Section 4.7 below.

[eschaton]

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A) It's not about the announcement, but about screwing 1.0 legacy players over, aka the result.
B) Again it ain't about talking about stuff or doing presentations on idea's, it is about what actually has been done. The result.
C) What? You didn't even play at the start it seems. Wauw.
D) So, if this isn’t about maximizing profits (even the game-play changes; ooh... you need a new xclass for the abilities, how about a boost potion?) .. what would it be about? Our comfort?

You need to think a little tiny bit before posting straw man arguments.

[Mature]

The prevailing argument is that because the items exist, period, they should be included in the game as part of the subscription."

That's not for you to decide. Just because these items exists doesn't mean they SHOULD be included. Is like buying an iPhone, there's all sorts of apps and add ons. Just because they exist doesn't mean they should be part of the deals. You either buy them or not.

It's just that simple.people should STOP crying over it and bloody move on

[eschaton]

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No they shouldn't. And if they do decide to do so, it should be least of all because of your posts saying so! Very mature.

[HyoMinPark]

A) It's not about the announcement, but about screwing 1.0 legacy players over, aka the result.
B) Again it ain't about talking about stuff or doing presentations on idea's, it is about what actually has been done. The result.
C) What? You didn't even play at the start it seems. Wauw.
D) So, if this isn’t about maximizing profits (even the game-play changes; ooh... you need a new xclass for the abilities, how about a boost potion?) .. what would it be about? Our comfort?

You need to think a little tiny bit before posting straw man arguments.

A. How did the NA server relocation screw over legacy players? O.o First time I've heard this one.
C. Why does it matter how long someone has played the game. Just because you've played the game longer than someone who started in 3.0 doesn't mean anything. You get to pay a cheaper subscription price, if you're a legacy player, and you have some legacy player shinies. But that doesn't necessarily mean that you know more than newer or non-legacy players.
D. I can understand the dislike for Jump Potions, but for the majority of players, cross-role is going to be immensely easier than the cross-class system. I don't need to level up ___ job to get ___ skill for my main job's ____ rotation. Those are all included in the role skills as you level up the one job the role encompasses.

[AlexanderThorolund]

This thread is appaling.

We have it every single time.

Delete the thread, give the OP an official warning and move on.