This is just appalling

[Naunet]

Coming from path or exile

A free-to-play game....

[Elkanah]

Usually my reaction: Fantasia for 10 bucks... ughh...
My reaction 5 minutes later on new items: Oh! A new outfit!

Dont ask me why lol.

[Mature]

.I hope you aren't serious. There are people who wants the glamour too, but cant simply afford it, is that so extremely hard to get? I can buy 2 of them right now and still have money, but that's not my point here, my point is... many can't afford and you already pay sub, why do they have to pay for items that cost more than the month sub itself?

NO ONE is forcing you to buy them. It's NOT required to play the game it's cosmetic stuff , optional items for those who WISH to buy them.

You want the glamour , open your wallet and pay for it. You think is a rip off DONT BUY IT. Simple as that

[Kuroneko_Jutah]

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The prevailing argument is that because the items exist, period, they should be included in the game as part of the subscription.

What they all conveniently ignore is that these items aren't paid for by the main development budget or influenced by the dev team whatsoever. The cash shop team decides very carefully on what items they want to invest time and resources into, purely based on whether or not they think it'll be profitable.

Why else do you think eastern-styled glamour items are appearing in the shop right before the expansion with an eastern-themed area?

Someone at SE marketing decided "now's a good time to bring these Korean/Chinese assets over to NA before the in-game assets arrive with Stormblood"

[HyoMinPark]

It affects our game experience because it means more things get designed for the cash shop rather than for the game itself.

That's not true at all. We can look at a simple comparison of items added to the cash shop in 2017 (that were explicitly designed for the cash shop) versus items added in-game in 2017 (that were added as part of an event). Cash shop items will not include past event items, and here is why: because these items were once available for free in-game as part of an event, and were not designed with the Cash shop in mind.

Cash shop (2017):
--Barding: Angel Barding, Demon Barding
--Emotes: /playdead, /backflip, /easterndance, /easternstretch
--Glamour: Aymeric Attire, Heavensward Attire, Fuga Attire, Moogle Cap, Moogle Attire (including the two Moogle attire items even though one was originally a pre-order bonus for ARR and the other the Heavensward Fan Fest item)

In-game (2017):
--Heavensturn 2017: Red Tori Kabuto, Black Tori Kabuto, Happy New Chocobo, Heavensturn Orchestrion Roll
--Valentione's Day 2017: /dote, Angel of Mercy minion, The Kiss Orchestrion Roll, Paramour Vase
--Little Ladies' Day 2017: Songbird Attire, /songbird, Eastern Cherry Petal Pile, Little Ladies Day Advertisement
--Hatchingtide 2017: Egg mount, Eggstravagant Interior Wall
--Make it Rain 2017: Rainmaker hairstyle, 3 new Triple Triad cards, Stuffed Sabotender

And this isn't even including any new glamours, bardings, housing items, or orchestrion rolls added during Patch 3.55 ~ 3.55b. So, no. Items being added to the cash shop does not negatively impact the amount of items being added in-game. I think that this list is more than enough to prove that.

Let us also remember that some of the items (mainly those that came from China or Korea) had to be bought with real currency in their respective countries, and were brought over to other countries due to player demand. Yet, people in these other countries wanted the items added in-game for them for free, even though Chinese players and Korean players had to pay real money for them.

Prices of things could always stand to be cheaper. Ask anyone if they want things cheaper than current price, and only a fool would say no. However, no one else has control over what an individual does with his or her money except for the individual spending it. If it bothers people so much that others want to spend their money as they see fit (be it on a glamour item from the cash shop or be it on buying merchandise from the SE Store that has DLC attached to it), perhaps you should find a way to let something like that go. It's not like someone is using your money to buy cash shop items.

[doglord]

The community really brought this situation on itself. Some of you may recall that a few years back, a character named Lightning would occasionally drop into Eorzea. This was extremely successful and we had a number of new players who missed these clamoring for the next Lightning event

However, a vocal minority of players who had already participated in the Lightning event insisted that Lightning should stay out of Eorzea forever. And the developers listened, for whatever reason, and threw the Lightning gear on the mog station instead, where the hordes of Lightning fans no doubt bought it as a sort of consolation prize.

Now, look at this from the perspective of a Square Enix executive: They see players loudly demanding that they don't want anymore world events, and at the same time, those same (apparently) players are buying huge amounts of gear off the Mog Station. I have no doubt that YoshiP is being ordered at this very moment to cut back on cool new world events and spend more time selling knick-knacks and baubles for the Mog Station, and it's all because you guys didn't want Lightning to Return to Eorzea.

[Naunet]

If it bothers people so much that others want to spend their money as they see fit (be it on a glamour item from the cash shop or be it on buying merchandise from the SE Store that has DLC attached to it), perhaps you should find a way to let something like that go.

When other people do something that is contrary/unhelpful to what you would like to happen (i.e. cash shop prices to go down, items to be account-bound - not things SE is motivated to change when people go ahead and spend money), then you have every right to be annoyed at those people.

[eschaton]

Like I said; there's some really weird decision making going on!

Totally agree with OP, but you know what? 'Would probably let it be, if they weren't screwing over players from hour 01 (!!!!!!!). Weird server-moves, weird game-play changes, and YES this cash-shop is getting appalling as well!

What is really going on here? A new manager looking to maximize profit, while screwing most of us over? What???

[HyoMinPark]

Now, look at this from the perspective of a Square Enix executive: They see players loudly demanding that they don't want anymore world events, and at the same time, those same (apparently) players are buying huge amounts of gear off the Mog Station. I have no doubt that YoshiP is being ordered at this very moment to cut back on cool new world events and spend more time selling knick-knacks and baubles for the Mog Station, and it's all because you guys didn't want Lightning to Return to Eorzea.

Mmm. Cash shop existed before the Lightning and Snow Attire was ever added into it. Just want to throw that out there.

Also, I'm guessing you missed the threads asking for a FFXV crossover event, and a Nier crossover event. Last year we had Yokai (as insane and painful a grind as it was). This year we have the still-ongoing Garo event (also a grind, but at least its PvP and not FATEs). With regards to Yokai and Garo, SE could have very easily just made a deal with the respective producers to throw the items up in the cash shop (with the Garo gear being level 1 glamour sets), but instead, they were added in-game as months-long events.

[SendohJin]

Unless you work in graphic design or assets yourself stop talking out of your ass. Fucking armchair game devs.

I have enough programming experience to know how easy that is. If it's not they did it really poorly. Just because I make more money at my current job doesn't mean I'm talking out of my ass.