Cleric Stance removed??

[dragonseth07]

Right now I'm wishing I hadn't pre-ordered this expansion. They might as well have just taken my money and set fire to it.

This is why you never pre-order anything. Buying something before you know what it actually is makes no sense. When will people learn?

[Mature]

You're entitled to your opinion. I don't agree with it.

But you do as you are quitting the game.

You must be very immature to have adopted that sort of attitude towards changes. Hope you find the right game the carters for your liking

[SendohJin]

I have definitely seen discussions where players who like WHM have been discussing other jobs and have said they've wished they could use Cleric Stance on those jobs.

WHMs discussing other jobs have little to do with Cleric Stance every job is getting rebalanced and WHM is getting the least good stuff.

i've never seen people wishing for Cleric Stance on a job that didn't have it. what job are you talking about BLM/SMN? how would that work and why would they want Cleric Stance?

[Kuroneko_Jutah]

Perhaps you should go back and read it again. No one's spitting on anyone. It's an example of respectful disagreement. Perhaps you can try it sometime.

I don't find snark or sarcasm particularly respectful with regards to disagreement. Try again.

[Alkimi]

I just find it funny that this is your biggest complaint about 4.0 WHM.

Some people liked the stance dancing thing but my impression is that most welcome this change, regardless of their skill level and how much dps they normally do.

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

I just find it funny that this is your biggest complaint about 4.0 WHM.

Some people liked the stance dancing thing but my impression is that most welcome this change, regardless of their skill level and how much dps they normally do.

considering there doesn't seem to be any viable one-handed weapon & shield builds... the concept of a 'Cleric' is completely lost. i am glad something is changing.

[The_Shang]

This thread can be summarized in 3 words:

OP is overreacting.

How do you not see that the Cleric Stance change is a *really* good thing for healers? As people have said, using Cleric Stance did not require skill at all and was just a toggle that 'locked' half your abilities. Having that annoying prereq removed is a godsend and will alleviate a lot of stress. Not having to worry about stance-dancing makes playing healers a lot better and will likely encourage players that never played that role to give it a try. I've known enough people that were put off on healing because of it (even myself, even though I pushed through and leveled them all to 60).

I welcome this change, as well as many others. This has been requested for ages and I'm really glad to actually see it happen now. If this is enough reason for you to stop playing OP, you were never really invested in the game to begin with. Hell, my main is SMN and I don't particularly enjoy the changes being made to that, which tbf are way more harsh than what changed with CS.

Will I still play it? Yes. I'm still curious as to how things will work now, even if I don't really like it.

You can't be sure how things will work if you don't give it a goddamn try! Spouting all this salt, 2 weeks before EA, is entirely pointless and you know it.

[Raim]

Might as well write down the names of all the people threatening to quit so you can laugh when you see them still ingame in 4.0. Nobody is quitting over a skill change. This promotes newer healers to contribute, and good healers will not be any less bored by not stance dancing.

[TarynH]

WHMs discussing other jobs have little to do with Cleric Stance every job is getting rebalanced and WHM is getting the least good stuff.

i've never seen people wishing for Cleric Stance on a job that didn't have it. what job are you talking about BLM/SMN? how would that work and why would they want Cleric Stance?

Duh! So BLM can throw out some heals every once in awhile! It's like the opposite "healer won't dps" syndrome. Caster won't heal!

[joannaluttrell]

Duh! So BLM can throw out some heals every once in awhile! It's like the opposite "healer won't dps" syndrome. Caster won't heal!

Start a petition. Healing DPSers should totally be the new meta. Next expansion Tanks (or at least Paladins) can heal.