Cleric Stance removed??

[Selova]

The current Cleric Stance is a 10% buff for as long as I want it, with my damage calculated based on my (usual) MND stat because it's been swapped with INT.

The new Cleric Stance is a 5% buff for 15 seconds with a 90 second cool-down, and damage calculated based on MND because... ?

Both of these are "optional", but there's no way I can match the damage of the first with the second.

Yeah, you're not getting it. Healer damage is going to scale with mind instead of intelligence. You are going to be doing a lot more than the old 10% buff gave because they switched it to scale with mind. The new cleric stance change isn't a nerf, it's a buff across the board for all healer damage.

[Seredeelfer]

Kool! Between all the WHMs quitting over their changes and this, those of us left planning to level a healer in 16 days should have insta-queues.

[Kaurie]

Personally, I've always disliked Cleric Stance. It feels clumsy to use, and never really added to my enjoyment of the class. I'm pretty happy to see its removal.

[Seryne]

I always hated stance dancing as I always hit Cleric twice when trying to switch out of it due to somewhat shaky hands. The change to it is a welcome one for me honestly.

[Abriael]

This is not something you just f- about with.

Actually yes, yes it is. Everything can be tweaked and improved. The meltdown I've seen over some of the changes is honestly frown-worthy, especially considering that 99.99999% of the people complaining haven't played Stormblood and its classes for a single second.

Incidentally, at the Media Tour Yoshida repeated multiple times that all tooltips are very much not final, and that people should not base their calculations on them, becayse they're subject to change and final adjustment. Quite amazed to see how some heard that strong recommendation and still made plenty of videos that are nothing but tooltips.

[missybee]

Cleric Stance was clunky, and it seems like the vast majority of the community is very accepting of the change. Moreover, this will help alleviate some of the anxiety associated with throwing out some DPS as a healer. The change might make XIV's healers feel a little bit less dynamic, but it also serve to streamline things.

If you want something more stance-dancey nowadays, it looks like BRD might be worth trying.

Honestly, if WHM is your main, I think there are other changes that are more frustrating than the removal of Cleric Stance ^^/

[Lexia]

If you want something more stance-dancey nowadays, it looks like BRD might be worth trying.

I stopped playing bard when HW came out cause of the changes but if the new SB changes remove them from being a bowmage I will most likely go back and check it out when SB releases, otherwise it will remain on the shelf.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I stopped playing bard when HW came out cause of the changes but if the new SB changes remove them from being a bowmage I will most likely go back and check it out when SB releases, otherwise it will remain on the shelf.

Rejoice. You will be able to pointlessly run all over the battlefield and spam jump as much as you like without worrying about cast times. Unfortunately, those of us that actually liked the HW play style have no way to continue enjoying it.

But hey, you can run and sprint to your heart's content.

[Lexia]

Rejoice. You will be able to pointlessly run all over the battlefield and spam jump as much as you like without worrying about cast times. Unfortunately, those of us that actually liked the HW play style have no way to continue enjoying it.

But hey, you can run and sprint to your heart's content.

Well to be fair they just putting it back the way it was so the 2.0 bards lost their playstyle when 3.0 released. So can't really say feel sorry for 3.0 bards.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Well to be fair they just putting it back the way it was so the 2.0 bards lost their playstyle when 3.0 released. So can't really say feel sorry for 3.0 bards.

You still have your play style though. Both BRD and MCH are losing the aiming time, so there is zero way to enjoy that play style again, for either range.

Which really bites, because I actually enjoyed aiming a hell of a lot more than running around pretending I was Naruto.