This is just appalling

[TheRealMadruck]

I made a video doing a actual comparison of prices of FF14 compared to other MMO's in the market today to give the facts on market pricing and if SE truly is charging to much for costumes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmSIj6tJMlI

DISCLAIMER: I understand that costumes in the MMO's I talk about could be cheaper if you make large purchases of their game currency but this information is factual based on the numbers of single purchases done. Also, I understand that people may have issue with paying for a costume because this is already a Sub based MMO. Remember, these games I mention are not required to have a Sub to play them but additional extremely useful perks are unlocked through them. Hence why a good portion of these game's player base will be subscribers!

[Dijana]

It bothers me greatly that they are selling eastern themed outfits right before an eastern expansion. Like the outfits were made for the expansion, then they put them on the mog station instead.

I don't mind cash shops in mmos, but I expect them in f2p/b2p games, because that is how they make money. I choose to play a game with a subscription because I'm of the understand that sub will get me access to all parts of the game. Things like transfers, fantasias, etc, they are fine on a cash shop, but costumes, emotes and mounts are getting frustrating. Yes, they are optional and I dont have to buy them (I wont), but I shouldnt have to be paying extra for some simple vanity items when I'm already paying a sub. I do hope this doesnt go further to the point that we cant get any cool new mounts or costumes in game without buying them off the mogstation

[Elkanah]

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I don't foresee that (not) stopping, honestly. Considering a lot of fanfest submission questions were 'will we see this ingame or on cash shop?' questions, it's most likely the "We're working on it" will be "it's actually gonna be cash shop available only" items.

[Vhailor]

Personally speaking, I just shake my head and utter a mental "what a f*cking moron" whenever I see someone wandering around in an overpriced trinket from the Mog Station. There's not a lot else I can do, beyond not purchase the items myself (or give up on MMOs entirely).

Some might call this overly hostile, but I disagree. People purchasing this crap are the reason why SE continues to put it up there. They're the same people who buy overpriced DLC for other titles, too. They're the reason why AAA titles are becoming more and more infested with nickel-and-dime schemes. Considering I find this whole paradigm distinctly unpleasant, referring to them as "f*cking morons" in my head seems perfectly justified.

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That's the way all businesses operate. I'm certain that if you had a business, while you would be concerned about customer satisfaction, you would also be concerned about your daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly profits. Because you would have business bills to pay. You would have to pay to rent the space your business occupies. You would have to pay your employees. You would have to pay for supplies your business may need. You would have to pay for electricity and water. I could go on. Businesses that don't make any money slowly go out of business. Or are bought up by larger businesses. You can't expect SE to just have one source of income (subscriptions).

If SE was really all that concerned about their "business bills" then I suspect they'd make more of an effort to, y'know, not release terribly-planned pieces of content like Diadem or Hunts. Or that they'd do a better job assessing balance before releasing Heavensward, which featured a dead-on-arrival AST which wasn't viable for months on end, or before releasing Stormblood, which will feature a dead-on-arrival WHM.

Intelligently-run businesses think long-term as well as short-term. The Mog Station is a result of short-term thinking, along with the vastly overpriced DLC companies love to release for other AAA games these days. Long-term thinking would suggest that companies should be quite careful about not pissing all over their reputation. Consumers have long memories. Rip them off one too many times, and they'll avoid going back to your stuff for years on end - even once you've changed your practises.

In short, it's not as simple as saying "businesses need to diversify, so let's excuse every sh*tty idea they have in the name of capitalism."

[Lokier]

You know what would be the real kick in the teeth? If the expac comes out and none of the gear looks 'Asian' in the slightest, imo... You want a kimono that looks like a kimono? Get your ass to the Mogstation because here's a burlap sac with a flower down the side, lol.

They better release proper kimonos into the game, I swear on Haurchefant's soul. >_> If I can't get one in-game I'll collect together crystals and summon a kimono primal... Which sounds like it should be the next big FFXIV event, lmao.



This comes to mind at the idea of clothes fighting us, lol.

[Alleo]

Nice to see the 140 likes that the OP got. I know that the people on the forum are only a small part of the playerbase but it seems that more people find this bad than good. You know what would be interesting? Official polls from SE about this topic and them posting the end results here on the forum. Just to see how the majority sees the cash shop and/or its prices.

[silverlunarfox]

The fact of the matter is the cash shop is not going away. It's in a large amount of games now due to the fact it IS profitable. If you do not like it, do not buy into the model. But some people will and do enjoy what ends up in mogstation, like myself, and will buy it if I see use for it. I'm a glamour addict and love the Far-Eastern sets they have released. Aside from the Fuga set the others were country exclusive so I do not mind paying for the sets. But I also know what I'm paying for when I buy, its not just the glamour. I don't go to town buying everything either, for me, I treat myself and limit myself to an extra purchase a month for the game.

Being hostile to people who want to simply enjoy an outfit is just silly. Let everyone enjoy the game in their own way Glamour on addicts, glamour on!

[HPDelron]

Nice to see the 140 likes that the OP got. I know that the people on the forum are only a small part of the playerbase but it seems that more people find this bad than good. You know what would be interesting? Official polls from SE about this topic and them posting the end results here on the forum. Just to see how the majority sees the cash shop and/or its prices.

This would never yield valid results. If you put up a poll asking if cash shop items should be cheaper and/or free everyone will say yes. Even someone who happily pays current cash shop prices and would happily pay even more than do now would say yes. It doesn't matter if someone is more than willing to pay $25 for a new dress, they'll still take it for $10 or free if they can.

The results of a poll asking people if they'd like to get things for cheaper or free is beyond obvious.

What really matters is sales. Prices will dip when the demand for the content dips.

[HyoMinPark]

Personally speaking, I just shake my head and utter a mental "what a f*cking moron" whenever I see someone wandering around in an overpriced trinket from the Mog Station. There's not a lot else I can do, beyond not purchase the items myself (or give up on MMOs entirely).

Some might call this overly hostile, but I disagree. People purchasing this crap are the reason why SE continues to put it up there. They're the same people who buy overpriced DLC for other titles, too. They're the reason why AAA titles are becoming more and more infested with nickel-and-dime schemes. Considering I find this whole paradigm distinctly unpleasant, referring to them as "f*cking morons" in my head seems perfectly justified.

Why do you care so much about what other people do with their money? Genuinely curious here, since you seem so upset over others spending their money however they see fit.

[Kaiden019]

Do we really need to go over this again? Cash shop items are made for the cash shop. If the shop didn't exist neither would these items. Only the seasonal items were not made with the intent to sell them.