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  1. #41
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    Vexander's Avatar
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    Rin Black
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilan View Post
    As for a lack of defensive cooldown, did you notice that RDM is the most mobile caster of the game? He can move after basically every cast, has a gap closer AND a disengage skill, while never dropping the dps, PLUS a decent self-heal in case things go wrong. If you can't dodge AOEs with that mobility I don't know what's your problem.
    A blackmage needs Manaward because it's on the opposite side of the mobility range, but the RDM can live without it.
    Wait, BLM -doesn't- have Mobility? Have you been watching the same videos on Stormblood Black Mages as I have? What with Aetherial Manipulation, a Teleport back to Leylines, Swiftcast + Tricast... BLM has a LOT of mobility now. Besides, its not exactly hard to avoid AOE as a BLM now either. Its the unavoidable field-wide damaging moves from bosses where some damage mitigation abilities come in. They take a bit of stress off the healer, and if you're unlucky and the healer(s) go down, as a RDM you might be able to survive with your damage mitigation to bring them back with Verraise.
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  2. #42
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    Wait, BLM -doesn't- have Mobility? Have you been watching the same videos on Stormblood Black Mages as I have? What with Aetherial Manipulation, a Teleport back to Leylines, Swiftcast + Tricast... BLM has a LOT of mobility now. Besides, its not exactly hard to avoid AOE as a BLM now either. Its the unavoidable field-wide damaging moves from bosses where some damage mitigation abilities come in. They take a bit of stress off the healer, and if you're unlucky and the healer(s) go down, as a RDM you might be able to survive with your damage mitigation to bring them back with Verraise.
    Using those mobility abilities is going to cost you dps. RDM can move without a loss.

    If everyone is going to be taking damage, no need to avoid it. Healer's going to AoE heal anyway. Mitigation would just be wasted unless if the damage was going to kill you.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Using those mobility abilities is going to cost you dps. RDM can move without a loss.

    If everyone is going to be taking damage, no need to avoid it. Healer's going to AoE heal anyway. Mitigation would just be wasted unless if the damage was going to kill you.
    I'm not sure if the move to leylines is on the Global Cooldown, but Aetherial Manipulation doesn't trigger it. Swiftcast and Tricast don't either so... not really all that much of a DPS loss.
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  4. #44
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    Lost Tales
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    Rdm's dualcast also makes Verraise instant cast

    Vercure - dualcast - Verraise

    Vercure- dualcast - verraise - swiftcast - Verraise

    Rdm has unlimited instant battle raises

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  5. #45
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    Ven Black
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Isn't WHM losing stoneskin?
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  6. #46
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    Ahnohla Mujuuk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Isn't WHM losing stoneskin?
    Stoneskin (I/II) does not exist anymore.
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  7. #47
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    Age Ofwar
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    Rdm has unlimited instant battle raises
    it might have unlimited instant battle raises but not unlimited MP since RDM doesn't seem to have any MP recovery you can get off 3 to 4 verraises before running out of MP
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  8. #48
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    Brielle Artemus
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    No MP regeneration I would think would be a huge issue for any caster.
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  9. #49
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    No MP regeneration I would think would be a huge issue for any caster.
    There's Lucid Dreaming and Max-Ether (and the inevitable Lv70 Ether potion) that can help with that. But it is a bit jarring that RDM is the only caster Job with absolutely no native MP regen skills, SMN has Aetherflow and BLM has Umbral Ice. Yes, it's true that RDM uses TP for some skills, but those skills are only used once for every 80 Black and White mana generated.
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  10. #50
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    Isra Daisy
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    Gilgamesh
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    I'm worried about Dualcast's description. It says auto-attack cancels its effect, but what if there's a fight where we have to stack under or close to the boss? Our dualcast woud probably get cancelled. Could we probably change this? haha
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