Red Mage looks Incomplete

[Klongol]

MP management: I quickly calculated, that even with perfect lucid dreaming use, you will depeleted in ~4 minutes. And no, you cant spam weaponskills as they cost 100 tp each.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WctPkumkxI

That video is of MrHappy playing RDM for 10 straight minutes without using Lucid Dreams. His MP does slowly go down, and the video is cut, but there are clearly times when he continuously casts 2 to 3 minutes with only 1/3 of his MP.

Methinks your calculations are off - Seems like with Lucid Dreams RDM will be able keep up for extended periods of time.

[Claire_Pendragon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WctPkumkxI

That video is of MrHappy playing RDM for 10 straight minutes without using Lucid Dreams. His MP does slowly go down, and the video is cut, but there are clearly times when he continuously casts 2 to 3 minutes with only 1/3 of his MP.

Methinks your calculations are off - Seems like with Lucid Dreams RDM will be able keep up for extended periods of time.

While I did watch that video before, but ill mention i havnt rewatched it to make sure.
but I did notice him drop out of MP, and then cut to a moment he's back up in MP, so he might have edited it, or Im just not remembering it correctly.

But I also agree the MP cost of RDM is ridiculously low. 360~ mp a spell is going to take a long time to bottom out. (and the proc cuts tier 2 spells down to 360~ish or something nearly as low)
and with a +2% of max MP every 3 seconds, thats almost 233 MP every GCD.

so with 14,000 mp, and spells being closer to 127mp per GCD, it will take a while to run out of MP, and when u get off 3 WSs, thats 700mp returned.
I think RDm will bottom out of MP eventually in 10+min fights, but only if they dont do good rotations, and there's no downtime/BRD/MCH.

[YokeM]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WctPkumkxI

That video is of MrHappy playing RDM for 10 straight minutes without using Lucid Dreams. His MP does slowly go down, and the video is cut, but there are clearly times when he continuously casts 2 to 3 minutes with only 1/3 of his MP.

Methinks your calculations are off - Seems like with Lucid Dreams RDM will be able keep up for extended periods of time.

Yeah I actually was off. /u/cheese1773 did a better job.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...en_napkinmath/

RDM is more or less mana neutral.

But one thing for me still stands. The auto-attack cancels dualcast thing. Is there a way, to completely turn auto attacks off?

EDIT: Seems he was off too and we are back to being starved pretty fast.

[Reinha]

But one thing for me still stands. The auto-attack cancels dualcast thing. Is there a way, to completely turn auto attacks off?

I imagine that's what the backwards jump is for. Since the auto-attacks are melee they won't hit until you go near the boss.

[YokeM]

I imagine that's what the backwards jump is for. Since the auto-attacks are melee they won't hit until you go near the boss.

Thats right, but what if you are in PotD for example and the mob will follow you, because you have no tank?

[Hayward]

This looks like the RDM I've hoped for in XI but never came to be thanks to the min/maxers. I don't know how the devs pulled it off or how many fistfights needed to take place, but XIV may put some polish on the reputation of the job after the disaster that ultimately befell it in XI.

A Red Mage that actually gets to use its sword and magic and provide some utility when needed? Blasphemy!

[Ageofwar]

This looks like the RDM I've hoped for in XI but never came to be thanks to the min/maxers. I don't know how the devs pulled it off or how many fistfights needed to take place, but XIV may put some polish on the reputation of the job after the disaster that ultimately befell it in XI.

A Red Mage that actually gets to use its sword and magic and provide some utility when needed? Blasphemy!

God damn it RDM is a healer not a DPS

OK that's the jokes a side, sounds like you, like me are a product of FFXI DPS RDM frustrations

[Wilan]

God damn it RDM is a healer not a DPS

OK that's the jokes a side, sounds like you, like me are a product of FFXI DPS RDM frustrations

A Healer? You mean a buffer/debuffer right? Don't you look at a red mage and instantly think "yeah this is a mage that stands in the back rows and helps his friends without getting in the way, casting Refresh and Sleepga".
Seriously, I too played RDM in FFXI, I liked it, I had a great time, it was the only job that I was happy playing really, but ever since then I've always hoped that XIV's RDM, if they'd ever add one, would look nothing like the disaster it was in FFXI. I don't care whatever exploit people could pull off with /nin, I don't care what you were able to solo, it simply was just nowhere as fun to play as XIV's incarnation looks. It seems to have an interesting rotation and every single one of its animation has a character that was almost absent in FFXI beside the AF.

[Claire_Pendragon]

Seriously, I too played RDM in FFXI, I liked it, I had a great time, it was the only job that I was happy playing really, but ever since then I've always hoped that XIV's RDM, if they'd ever add one, would look nothing like the disaster it was in FFXI. I don't care whatever exploit people could pull off with /nin, I don't care what you were able to solo, it simply was just nowhere as fun to play as XIV's incarnation looks. It seems to have an interesting rotation and every single one of its animation has a character that was almost absent in FFXI beside the AF.

But in all fairness, there actually was a way for RDM to nuke, heal, buff, debuff, and melee in XI, and actually be effective in all levels of content. (it's just that everyone refused to do it, until the end of the Lv75 cap era, partly because people didnt KNOW it could do it, due to lack of proper tooltips on abilities.)

[Ageofwar]

But in all fairness, there actually was a way for RDM to nuke, heal, buff, debuff, and melee in XI, and actually be effective in all levels of content. (it's just that everyone refused to do it, until the end of the Lv75 cap era, partly because people didnt KNOW it could do it, due to lack of proper tooltips on abilities.)

Oh I knew that RDM could Melee and Nuke in ffxi it's just all I was asked to do in LS end game content was heal buff and debuff and that was it

these days I spend my time as BLU meleeing and Nuking