PSA - Cleric Stance and vote kicking

[Zarex]

If were only looking at HW for now it's not unreasonable to be asking anyone to be doing more whether its the single target tank who pulls big groups and doesn't want to use overpower ect. cause it cost's to much TP. BRD/ MCH who dont use songs when they should be. or the afk healers who fail at the ABC always be casting.

VIX as it is now wasn't built for only healers cause the dmg output from dungeons or what not don't support that kind of play. They might change that for SB but would you want a tank who pulls everything and spams flash til he is out of MP and stand around for the rest of the fight? If I don't dps on my healers in leveling or roulettes when I do them I find it incredibly boring to stand around doing F all waiting for dmg when I can help clear the dungeon quicker and possibly skip mechanics or phases by adding in a little dps

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

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YMMV on that. Unlike tanks, healers don't actually have any innate mechanics that revolve around their dps, leading to a case of pre ft DRG, where they achieve maximum dps by spamming less than a handful of abilities. I can only speak for myself, but I find dpsing as a healer to be the single most boring aspect of any class in the game, because they have literally no mechanics involved. All you're doing is putting up two DoTs and spamming filler, no different than drg at the low levels. About the only times I'm engaged as a healer are when I'm actually required to be healing full time.

[Zarex]

but I find dpsing as a healer to be the single most boring aspect of any class in the game, because they have literally no mechanics involved. All you're doing is putting up two DoTs and spamming filler.

so because of this reasoning it's acceptable for someone to be AFK and get carried by doing literally nothing for portions of a dungeon/ raid or trial when there is no dmg or very little going out that doesn't require both healers to heal if people aren't standing in stupid and failing mechanics. For people new to a fight, learning or what not It's perfectly fine to not do as much dmg or focus on what they have to heal in a fight. I personally think we need a intermidiate or expert hall of novice for people to learn how to play XIV as it's quite different from other MMO's. As bad as SWTOR has become you almost never had to ask healers to DPS and it was usually the really good ones who found a way to squeeze DPS in.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

so because of this reasoning it's acceptable for someone to be AFK

Well, it's more like I can sympathize with why they do. Healing most content in this game is so easy I can have a book in my free hand while I use the other to sling an incredibly simple dps rotation without putting any effort or actual care into what I'm doing. Sometimes I glance up and notice the tank is at 10% HP, but a quick hotbar swap and benediction later I'm back to being semi AFK until everything's dead, then rinse and repeat. That's boring healing design.