Are role actions a nerf?

[SpeckledBurd]

It's a nerf for some Jobs and a buff for others depending on what actions they currently have.

For example, the Reprisal action is now a Cross Role, which is a buff to Paladin since it's the only tank that didn't actually have a means of reducing all outgoing damage by 10% like Warrior and Dark Knight.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

From what I heard, rescue can only be used when the target has aggro. So we will have to see how that works, maybe it cant work on tanks?

[Vexander]

Think of it as an ability that lets Black Mages, Red Mages and Summoners replace Bards and Machinists.

Also lets you pay the Healer back for Resing you and you can both be annoyed at the dps who keep dying.

Well, replace them as far as MP is concerned, not TP. That said, I feel like BLMs will probably end up the real mana batteries. Umbral Ice is just a very potent mana restoring mechanic. 20% MP would be recovered in a tick of Umbral Ice III.

[CyrilLucifer]

Because having all 10 would be overpowered?

Except right now, at this very minute, WHM has access to all of those except the two new skills.

WHM is definitely not OP.

For WHM, unless they get some amazing replacements alongside new skills, this is definitely a nerf.

[bswpayton]

The healer role actions are
Cleric stance
?

is warrior losing blood bath is what I wana know like thats gona really suck on a warrior

[Ama_Hamada]

From what I heard, rescue can only be used when the target has aggro. So we will have to see how that works, maybe it cant work on tanks?

You perform an action on a monster you have hate.. you reading into it too much.

All that means is whoever you are trying to rescue can't be passive. Maybe it is suggesting it can be used out of party and did not want people pulling people randomly.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

[Edit]: If anything about the new Role System concerns me its the Transfer of 20% MP to other party members. Going to suck if DPS Casters become glorified Mana Batteries, though I'm not unhappy we have more synergy with Healers.

Wouldn't be that bad for BLMs, would it? Just pop this baby while Umbral Ice is up.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You perform an action on a monster you have hate.. you reading into it too much.

All that means is whoever you are trying to rescue can't be passive. Maybe it is suggesting it can be used out of party and did not want people pulling people randomly.

You have emnity, not hate/aggro. hate/aggro are mostly used to mean when someone has pulled the mob off the tank.

[Vexander]

Wouldn't be that bad for BLMs, would it? Just pop this baby while Umbral Ice is up.

True, though I'm more thinking of Red Mage since in FFXI it had a reputation as a Mana Battery. I doubt the same will happen here, but this is a bit of a drastic new addition for the DPS toolkit.

[AstralKaos]

To get this straight...

They've taken skills that were previously on some jobs as level unlocks; some of which were cross-class skills, and made them separate as this so-called cross-role skills; all while doing away with cross-class as it is - or if so, was?

If that's right then yes, personally I consider that a nerf... big time... as well as being pointless as they took a system that exists and added a few good additions to it - yet made it worse; one step forward - two steps back etc.