Are role actions a nerf?

[Greedalox]

The pull ability sounds like a hilariously terrible idea. I mean I guess you could drag that guy who decides they are going to afk outside the barrier and leech a kill but there are so many troll applications of an ability that pulls.

Maybe there are some heavy restrictions on it. I would hope they would have thought about that before green lighting it.

I'm privy to it being green lit because we really need to stray from basic utility formats. There's only so many ways you can relabel a DoT/Regen/Threat generation or of the sort until it's just the same thing renamed. Trolls will be trolls will be trolls, kick em if you got em- just as it's always been. If they're going to troll you with a new spell they were probably the sort to troll you in other ways. This hopefully opens doors for a wider variety of utility! It's a great first step imo!

[Xlantaa]

THere is not a nerf if all of them are nerfed/buffed.

[Aethaeryn]

The pull ability sounds like a hilariously terrible idea. I mean I guess you could drag that guy who decides they are going to afk outside the barrier and leech a kill but there are so many troll applications of an ability that pulls.

Maybe there are some heavy restrictions on it. I would hope they would have thought about that before green lighting it.

Can't not add features just because a few people might troll with it. Just like vote abandon spam or readycheck spam etc. People will troll with it for a little while, but they'll eventually get bored and stop. I honestly can't remember the last time someone trolled me with the WoW or swtor equivalent of Rescue. Either way, I guess they could add an option to block the skill just in case.

@OP: I have similar concerns. Needing to use cross-role slots to use abilities we were previously provided by the class seems like a nerf to me.

[Vexander]

Looking forward to, 'Rescuing,' a DPS running ahead of the Tank now. Mwuha!

Kidding aside, I guess we'll have to wait and see how bad the abuse of the ability is. Its clearly meant to drag people out of AOE. That said, I can't see a situation a healer isn't taking: Swiftcast, Protect, Esuna, Saint's Shroud, and Eye for an Eye. I imagine for Full Parties one Healer could grab Protect and Eye for an Eye, and the other grab Cleric Stance and another ability, both holding onto Swiftcast, Esuna, and Saint's Shroud.

[Edit]: If anything about the new Role System concerns me its the Transfer of 20% MP to other party members. Going to suck if DPS Casters become glorified Mana Batteries, though I'm not unhappy we have more synergy with Healers.

[LadyKairi]

I'm looking forward to using the rescue ability. I've wanted this sort of ability for a long long time. So many times I could've saved people from titan's landslides or Sophia's scale tips had I had it. I just hope people won't ruin it for those of us who will actually use it as intended.

[Ultimatecalibur]

[Edit]: If anything about the new Role System concerns me its the Transfer of 20% MP to other party members. Going to suck if DPS Casters become glorified Mana Batteries, though I'm not unhappy we have more synergy with Healers.

Think of it as an ability that lets Black Mages, Red Mages and Summoners replace Bards and Machinists.

Also lets you pay the Healer back for Resing you and you can both be annoyed at the dps who keep dying.

[Gemina]

Someone help me, because I'm having trouble understanding how this helps. More skills to choose from, yet the same amount of slots? As a WHM, I now have to slot in abilities that were previously innate? Three of them as a matter of fact. Do they really think Surecast is better to have than Virus? What's going on here?

I know there is usually an overreaction to new information that is released, but it would indeed seem that we have been nerfed, as the OP suggested.

[Leanna]

Can't wait to have Rescue and kill as many people as I can, by accident, of course.

[Sebazy]

Losing Aero and Blizzard 2 will be a mild DPS nerf for SCH as things stand. No stoneskin could be considered a nerf for AST in particular (I'll certainly miss it).

I suspect it's very quickly going to turn into a cookie cutter situation. I can see myself almost guaranteed to just roll with Prot/Lucid/DS/Esuna/E4E or Virus and maybe switching esuna out for cleric where it's relevant if I actually remember to (and then promptly getting someone killed because I forgot to switch back and couldn't dispel doom )

[Raim]

I feel like its a bad decision to give you choices, but then 2-3 of them were already innate or guaranteed picks. I think each healer should just get Esuna. A better idea about Swiftcast and res is to instead make it so Res is automatically instant cast, but on a 60 second cooldown in combat.