5 reasons why PS4 players need a parser in game

[Nyxn607]

If this nice game ever gets a damn useless parser.. -> Systemconfiguration -> Options -> Turn off Parser. <.<
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I will second this. I hope it never gets a parser though.

[StarRosie]

So... you're relying and basing your argument on the fact you play with people with parsers who can see if your SSS practice is working and would let you know otherwise?

FWIW, I'm not bashing SSS. I think they were a welcome implementation to the game.

Not quite, more making a point that it is a testament to how much you can advance and improve with just SSS if people WITH parsers are leaving you, the person WITHOUT a parser, alone. And if you can advance that far with just SSS, then why add a parser? Again, everything needed to optimize your job is readily available online, so why need a parser to tell you what you can easily just google and then practice in SSS? I mean, that way is kinda boring but if you are going for full efficiency, then yeah, that works just fine.

I once raided with someone who boasted about their SSS numbers, and they were good, they knew their rotation. However, in raid, their numbers were worse than mine (the PLD). SSS doesn't translate into a battle situation very well. It's nice that you can practice on SSS and be good in raid, but the two don't equate, you are missing phase knowledge, dodging, mechanics, and interruptions to your rotation that all affect your final damage output.

Yeah, that's where I go and learn the raid either by doin' or watching the several dozen guides, readily available online and add the knowledge to the skills developed in SSS, all of which parsers don't do. Parsers don't teach you a raid and they don't teach you the mechanics. Which is actually starting to become annoying, everyone is becoming so obsessed with their overall DPS numbers that they are forgetting about mechanics. Least that's been my raiding experience recently. Man, anecdotal evidence is fun. (And yes, that's a double edged jab.)

Anyways, I gotta be hopping off, need that magical thing call sleep. If anyone replies to me, I'm not gonna be replying for a while.

[Tigerlilley]

Not quite, more making a point that it is a testament to how much you can advance and improve with just SSS if people WITH parsers are leaving you, the person WITHOUT a parser, alone. And if you can advance that far with just SSS, then why add a parser? Again, everything needed to optimize your job is readily available online, so why need a parser to tell you what you can easily just google and then practice in SSS? I mean, that way is kinda boring but if you are going for full efficiency, then yeah, that works just fine.

How would you confidently know that your SSS practice is translating to a real fight with mechanics and adds? You said earlier that you are sure because you have friends with parsers. How would people without parsers manage this?

As for googling rotations - are you aware that you can accurately see the best players rotations skill for skill, play by play on FFlogs? It's a wonderful tool to see how great players are doing and how you can mimic it to improve yourself. Know how that information is gathered? By the same program everyone uses to parse.

[StarRosie]

How would you confidently know that your SSS practice is translating to a real fight with mechanics and adds? You said earlier that you are sure because you have friends with parsers. How would people without parsers manage this?

Again, really gotta be hopping off for bed, so I'm just gonna point you to the edited in portion of my last post. If that doesn't answer, I'm sorry. I will try to reply after work tomorrow but again... I gotta sleeeeeep. Anyways, have a lovely night!

[MomomiMomi]

You realize a parser doesn't teach where you are going wrong, it just shows you the number, you the player, not the 3rd party software, still need to explore how to make that number higher. The software doesn't scream "HIT THIS SKILL, THEN THIS ONE, AND THIS ONE, THEN THAT SKILL." It doesn't promote your skill, you already have to have the want to perform better.

But if you don't have that number, you won't know that you need to make it higher. A lot of people think they're good, only to enter a raid with someone parsing them and find out, to their horror, they're doing 50% of the dps they should be.

That's the point where a lot of players have to not just try to do a little better, but completely re-examine what they're doing wrong.

Others are not quite as extreme. They think they're reached their peak, and they're good, but they compare to someone else's parse and find there's still room to improve. Or they try doing something slightly different and see if their dps goes up.

I'm sure most people who actually care to improve would improve with a parser.

[Tigerlilley]

Parsers don't teach you a raid and they don't teach you the mechanics. Which is actually starting to become annoying, everyone is becoming so obsessed with their overall DPS numbers that they are forgetting about mechanics. Least that's been my raiding experience recently. Man, anecdotal evidence is fun. (And yes, that's a double edged jab.)
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You're right, they don't. SSS also doesn't teach you mechanics or a raid.

My questions was, in the context of DPS, in which you stated your friends who parse have told you you're fine. "How would you confidently know that your SSS practice is translating to a real fight with mechanics and adds?" if you couldn't parse.

You can't actively protest against a parser where you yourself have benefited from having one in your raid group. You've found out that your dps is up to scratch from your active research, because someone in your group has a parser.

[HoodRat]

There has only been one occasion where I witnessed someone being harassed by someone else using a parser. And, in my honest opinion, they deserved it. When you go into level 60 content with full end game gear and your dps is less than what it should be for your class at level 50, there is just absolutely no excuse for that. If you want to play however you want, that's fine if you're doing stuff on your own. But when you want to play with other people, it's incredibly selfish to expect them to carry you because you can't be bothered to improve yourself. It's a shame that this game has such a huge skill gap and people would rather run and cry to SE to stop people from telling them they need to improve instead of actually improving.

[SpookyGhost]

If this nice game ever gets a damn useless parser.. -> Systemconfiguration -> Options -> Turn off Parser. <.<
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In this hypothetical situation, does turning off the parser just turn off the ability for you to see it? Or can no one else see your numbers as well? Or are we talking about a personal parser? It seems strange to deny yourself information unless you just want everyone else not to see your numbers, in which case... I kinda feel like that wouldn't do much good as anyone with their numbers hidden clearly turned it off for a very specific reason (their numbers are low). Maybe a good mentality, instead, is to accept that you have low numbers and work on improving them.

[Tigerlilley]

If this nice game ever gets a damn useless parser.. -> Systemconfiguration -> Options -> Turn off Parser. <.<
o_o

I also would like to know why you'd refuse information given to you.

[Kabelius]

my two cents...
As a PS4 player it is defintely a disadvantage if u cannot parse your own runs. You always need a guy with a pc to get your numbers or you have to rely on your rotation at the sss puppets. PS4 Players have to ask, and the remeber what maybe went wrong. If the pc guy is kind enough, maybe he links me the fflogs upload and i can try to analyze but it is not the same as a direct feedback in combats. I need to see directly what lowers my dps and what boosts it. Then i can repeat and improve...