5 reasons why PS4 players need a parser in game

[Ailith-D]

As a PS4 player I feel that I'm at a disadvantage especially in endgame what I'm asking for is adding a parser to be used only to check our own DPS not to judge others in the party and here I'll to point out why PS4 players need a real time parser in game. Endgame content depends heavily on DPS if you do good you are rewarded by skipping mechanics if you don't do enough DPS you might hit enrage or see more mechanics that can cause a wipe, if endgame is designed around our DPS we can't just pretend like its not important. So here are my reasons:
1- Every group that raids have at least 1 parser working even if its technically not legal but SE knows players are using parsers and they are not doing anything to stop them.
2- Raid groups always ask for parses when they are looking for members.
3- Using "Stone, Sky, Sea" only helps you if you are learning your job and your rotation, we all know DPSing in a fight is way different.
4- Getting better at endgame and optimizing DPS require having a parser running to see your DPS while mechanics are happening, asking your friends or party members about your DPS after the clear won't tell you what you have to work on (I'm talking about small things not messing up your rotation).
5- Not everyone is comfortable enough or willing to help a PS4 player know their DPS so asking others is not a solution.
If you are a PC player you get to use a parser but if you are a PS4 player you don't get to do that we pay the same amount of money to enjoy this game and endgame is a big part of it, so unless they change how endgame works players will keep using parsers and we will stay at disadvantage, just to be clear I want to be able to check my own DPS to get better if others don't care enough or don't raid they don't have to worry about this.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

As a PS4 player, I think you're grossly understating our abilities here.

While being able to know exactly what you're doing damage wise will always help, learning and perfecting your rotations and having a very good understanding of your job (and the synergies of your team) can go a long way too. Not every static asks for parses either. In the past, I think only one had me try out, but knowing I was on PS4, they did the parsing themselves, and I had no issues besides, again, because rather than pushing for hard numbers, I pushed instead for mastery of my given job at the time. It also needs to be said that if any static is going to assume less of you for being on a console, or is only interested in hard numbers, you may want to reconsider if that's the right static for you. No one is going to hit the same numbers every time, 100% of the time.

We are not handicapped players in this game simply by being on console. Yes, I'm all for anything that can help any player learn and improve, but we've got to stop thinking of ourselves at a disadvantage first. How do you get those big numbers? Perform effective, proper rotations. All the information is out there, and experience IS the best teacher. And you don't need a parser just to know what to do.

[bswpayton]

As a PS4 player, I think you're grossly understating our abilities here.

While being able to know exactly what you're doing damage wise will always help,

I totally disagree , I actually went from pc to ps4 when I had just started to see my numbers and I personally feel lost and will be switching back to pc. For a tank it helps me know how much keepin stance on for so long effects my damage, as a healer it lets me know how much dps im puttin out helping the team. SE refusal to not allow them is a disservice to the game in my opinion seeing those numbers climb is motivation. Not seeing them like being on ps4 you could be hittin 12k crits and literally only be doing 800 dps it really sucks how strongly the devs are against a tool that is so helpful

[Kosmos992k]

As a PS4 player, I think you're grossly understating our abilities here.

And grossly overstating the positive impact of a parser.

At the beginning of ARR they said they were going to add it so we should keep talking about it until they listen to us.

I don't recollect that at all. I do remember talk of possibly supporting add-ons, which isn't the same thing.

[bswpayton]

And grossly overstating the positive impact of a parser.

I usually agree with most things you say kosmos but on this one parsers make so much different its crazy

[Kosmos992k]

I usually agree with most things you say kosmos but on this one parsers make so much different its crazy

I am not saying that parsers or similar tools are unhelpful in raiding situations. I am saying that to be a decent player, you don't need a parser or similar tool, you just need to care about actually doing well. Like any tool, a parser is only useful to those who a) know how to use them, and b) want to use them. The vast majority of players who want to improve will do so with, or without such tools. For non raid, non EX, non Savage content, parsers and damage meters are not needed. Players who want to do better will, players who don't or simply don;t care, won't.

Personally I don't have a problem with personal performance measurement, though I don't believe that it is necessary for 90% of the game. I do not agree with any form of group parsing or public parsing, ultimately these tools which really only have a place in true end-game content could easily be (ab)used to berate people in the other 90% of the game in wholly inappropriate manners, and so I believe they are not needed. But that's my opinion, and that's where I stand.

[bswpayton]

I am not saying that parsers or similar tools are not .

toxic players are gona be toxic regardless, parser or not i mean do you not constantly see the no bonus in the party finder. There is already division in the game but considering how many people want them I dont understand why SE refuses to accommodate especially when in pvp they tell you your damage, Ive never had one person comment on me in pvp and I suckkk at pvp.

SE needs to give more options , you honestly have no clue how well you are doing personally without a parser or how bad your doing for that matter let those who want it use them. I wish they would come around , but I mean it seems when they make a decision its usually final look at how many people hate wm, or how many people hated the diadum weapon, or how many people dont like the datacenter move. They sometimes act like that mean stubborn parent that just want accommodate what their playerbase wants.

To my other comment I mean I dono Act isnt legal I guess so I guess the use of triggers would go under the same category ha. Cheating to me would be if you are in competition with someone but you cant compete with players in this game aside from pvp.

[Sebazy]

I am saying that to be a decent player, you don't need a parser or similar tool .......

I don't believe that it is necessary for 90% of the game.

The difficulty of this game right now is pretty much the root problem behind this, parsing isn't necessary because quite frankly, you can clear 90% of the game mashing 1 button. I don't think that's a good thing =(

[akaneakki]

. And you don't need a parser just to know what to do.

No you don't. But to see how you perform you do. You see knowing rotation is 1 thing, doing them inside a fight is another. Just because it's A4 paper and ''makes sense to do certain skill here'' doesn't mean you perform good as you think. You see I'm on ps4 too and I thought I did well until someone told me I wasn't. When I started doing things different I was told I improved by 150-200 dps. However, this isn't something we can always do, you will always need to try the fight over time and have people willing to give you the information you want. Having the information you seek right there as you click on it is far more effective.

This will not only help you improve faster but also knowing what you can do easily while you progress new content. You know many people fail dps check on new content due to having no information of their dps. Some people think they doing well, until they find out later they didn't. Just because you do content, doesn't mean you doing the weight you should do- 75-85% effort. Like I've stated in previous parser threads, put the people that think they doing good but not really doing well, in the same group and it will ring another bell. I have screenshots of a9s enrage with echo and nearly full team of ilvl 270.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

You see knowing rotation is 1 thing, doing them inside a fight is another.

This is why Stone Sky Sea didn't work as a passive means of parsing. It just didn't properly reflect the real thing. Having that means to meter performance under actual battle situations does make a difference, and I certainly won't dispute that. The only thing I dispute is the ability to do so being unreachable without a parser.

After thinking on this a bit, I feel I may be a bit disconnected from the main concerns here because it's never been an issue for me personally. I'm showing my age a bit, but I'm from a time when games didn't have tutorials or in-depth add-ons; we just figured stuff out. Pure trial and error. Repetition. Owing to that, there's a LOT of behind the scenes things I grew accustomed to doing to effectively learn while minimizing mistakes or low performance. That definitely doesn't mean I've always done it right, but when I did it right, however fast or slow I became able to do so, I did so without parsing. It's nice to have, and I'd like to have it. But I don't NEED to have it. Though reflecting on this topic a bit, I can only speak for myself in that regard.