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    All I want is a parser meter for me. Meaning it only shows my Damage out, my Healing, my support buffs and my Mitigation percentages. I could care less about a group parser as that will lead to harassment but you cannot harass other players with a parser that calculates only your character..

    The devs could also add in the top players w/out names so we can see where we can improve. Those who like to theory craft would thoroughly enjoy this type of application. I would love to see over all dps average numbers for a duration of an encounter for each job. This kind of application should have graphs and percentages for each skill and when used during the encounter. If anyone seen FFLOGs then you know what I am talking about. Unfortunately I can't use that type of application on a PS4 but would love to have it.

    Basically the application will work as followed: after you run a raid or dungeon..ect you can pull up the application to see where you can improve. you can also use that application to compare notes with other players who are using the same job with or without names for each chart. This will allow us to fine tune our skill rotations so the next time we enter the encounter we have a better over all experience.

    Anyway the game already records this information why not provide this to the players so we can improve as a player base. Good player base = a better experience in the DF
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    Last edited by Astral145; 02-12-2018 at 06:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astral145 View Post
    Snip . . .
    LET IT RAISE FROM THE DEAD! Clearly this horse has not been beaten enough.
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    @OP isnt this why they added Earth Sea and Sky? So you can determine if youre up to snuff for your dps?
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    I feel like this thread is the perfect example of why a parser should never be put into the game: you all can't even debate amicably over it. What makes you think the general population would use it and not abuse it to harass players when you guys can't argue over it without digging into each other's personal play habits? And there's way too many posts in this thread stating: "well the players that would be harassed deserve it."

    No. They. Don't. No one deserves to be harassed and felt like crap because they're playing a game they enjoy. And until that mindset goes away I don't see Yoshida giving in to your requests.

    Even then: as it stands third party mods and such programs on consoles isn't happening any time soon. Even if Square Enix wanted to implement one, Sony would have to give them the okay. And given their current stance on similar mods for other games, they won't do it. So no matter how much you bring this matter up to SE it's not entirely in their hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadRabbit View Post
    No one deserves to be harassed and felt like crap because they're playing a game they enjoy.
    What gives you the right to make 3/7/23 other players suffer because you can't be bothered to learn to play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NolLacnala View Post
    What gives you the right to make 3/7/23 other players suffer because you can't be bothered to learn to play?
    Assuming parser would magically improve majority of the underperforming players dps. lol

    It would not change anything, but improve the communication between party members, so people will spend more time complaining about other people dps, because why not.
    Ofc im talking here about recount type of parser, but the only-myself type of parser is not good either.
    God forbid healers and tanks trying to be full time dpsers, this game will die and the balance around it when tanks will drop def stance and yolo trough working as melee dps. Why should i care about eminity wtf is this, if they die its on them hehehe.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Man who dug this up?

    At this point, I don't bloody care anymore. If people want to arbitrarily think console players are handicapped and clueless victims of the platform they play on and the terrible, terrible lack of a helpful metering tool being a complete and utter wall to being able to improve at all, be my guest. It's neither the biggest, nor worst misconception this game's playerbase has, so bring it on.

    Add it in so people clam up about it once and for all. Throw in a free male bunny glam too for good measure. Dyeable or mass hysteria.
    You are exaggerating it madly.
    You dont need a parser to know you should use the cd ability that deals damage as often as possible or want to keep up dmg buff or to use aoe abilities when hitting loads of enemies.
    A few digits here and there would not tell me how to manage my blood and mana resources as DRK to pull out as much dps as it is virtually possible, the tool would need to be really advanced to tell me when to use delirium and when quietus to pull out as much mp so i could use it on DA and etc.
    It will motivate players to try their best thats for sure to not perform worse than before, and thats why i hate ESO so much, because you are being pushed to the wall and the gun pointed at you if you are not doing 120% of yourself, thats silly. If you do less for some reason you are losing will to do anything anymore its double edge axe.
    You will feel good when improving your numbers and then you will be totaly discouraged one day because you did way less than before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    It would not change anything, but improve the communication between party members, so people will spend more time complaining about other people dps, because why not.
    You don't need a parser to complain about other peoples DPS. It's painfully clear when mobs die over this or that amount of time, when with other parties they die over this or that amount of time.
    Many players don't utilize AoE's, and that is as obvious as it gets that someones DPS is bad when the tank makes large pulls. And even if you WILL see someone in the party complaining about that guy that instead of using AoE on a mob of 6-9 enemies just burns them individually, it is rarely in an offensive manner.

    People just won't care in random parties all that much. There is no competition in this game, no rankings, no bosses with respawns that someone could steal from underneath your nose (eh...alright, hunts and FATE's fit this somewhat, but you can still get full credit provided you came on time). Making a wall of text complaint about someone having low DPS is going to waste more time than following through, and most people that DO have low DPS won't be able to change it mid-run anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadRabbit View Post
    I feel like this thread is the perfect example of why a parser should never be put into the game: you all can't even debate amicably over it.
    Lmao implying people

    Quote Originally Posted by DreadRabbit View Post
    can amicably debate over
    anything on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadRabbit View Post
    Even then: as it stands third party mods and such programs on consoles isn't happening any time soon. Even if Square Enix wanted to implement one, Sony would have to give them the okay. And given their current stance on similar mods for other games, they won't do it. So no matter how much you bring this matter up to SE it's not entirely in their hands.
    ...That's exactly why people ask for a built-in parser, so it would NOT be a third party mod...Sony have little saying in the matter of adding parsers to the game by the developer. Their contracts surely don't ban it. And if they don't ban something before it's released, they can no longer backtrack and forbid it to those that implement it, even if they decided that parsers are a no-go after all.

    So yeah, Sony and its stance here is irrelevant, because what is asked is a game feature, like another pair of glamour items, another mount or new skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadRabbit View Post
    I feel like this thread is the perfect example of why a parser should never be put into the game:
    Your post is the perfect example why we need one in the game. I mean underperformers in actually raid content, they shouldn't be part of it. If you think you are okay to tag along and everyone bust their butt off because you can't be bothered with it? I have to decline that offer there, sorry.
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