Another post about what others have said, not going to go back and quote them sorry it's too much effort right now. I think we may frequently discount how much some players are affected by thier system or how they chose to play. The first thing I'd thinking of is the lag/not a great computer issue. WHen I first raided in WoW I remember I used to run at about 13 fps and I thought this was just how the game looked. It wasn't until I saw videos or saw how the game ran on my friend's computer that I realized how bad my game was running. When I got a new computer, I got pretty good REALLY fast. And now I can't deny part of that was putting more research in, but a huge part of it as well was not being held back by my system. I could actually see mechanics and react to them quickly and heal all at the same time. It was a game changer. I wonder how many healers are dealing with lag or framerate issues although they can do the content like this ( I cleared 25 man HM LK at that framerate btw LOL) it is really holding them back in performance and they aren't even that aware of it. The second thing is what someone mentioned about cleric stance changing thier bars with a macro. This is NOT an attack on this person. But for reasons that many of us probably understand, this is not a good way to play and I do feel it may hold them back. I know I have a warrior that does this with defiance in my raid group and we have talked to him about it a few times. But he just can't let it go.This person parses very low during prog (he had some 9th and 11th percentile clears with us this tier while doing complete off tanking ) and I wonder how much of that is related to how he chooses to play with all these macros. To make the most out of cleric, I usually keep it on till the last second, then literally as a click it off I'm casting my heal. The way cleric comes off makes this possible to do. If I had to wait for the macro to change my bars I think there would be more delay involved and that would scare me tbh. The person who posted this feel free to respond about it if you wish or not if you don't. I find it very interesting to play this way and curious how you started (if someone told you to do this or you came up with it yourself). Thanks .