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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Basically, ping is how long it takes for the game to read your signal and register actions in the game, be it abilities or loading areas. If you've played Ninja before their more recent patches, did you ever have trouble with Mudras delays? That's caused by ping as the game isn't able to progress the button input as fast as you're pressing it. The further away from the servers you are, the longer it takes for everything to register. In most cases, it's a negligible difference but far enough away (coast to coast, for example) and you will notice a difference depending how good a connection you have.
    Oh jeez, Ricochet already delays my next GCD regardless of how much I spam the button. And even just using Fuma Shuriken has a lag. Suddenly not looking forward to this very much :l
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    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post
    Oh jeez, Ricochet already delays my next GCD regardless of how much I spam the button. And even just using Fuma Shuriken has a lag. Suddenly not looking forward to this very much :l


    You said you're living in Montreal, yes? Depending how bad things are, you may want to consider transferring to NA servers. Another option is WTFast or Battleping. Both are VPNs that force your connection down a more stable route. Rilasha posted the difference she saw just above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eothas View Post
    So true, I don't want to complain about my ping/latency before the servers are live, but if it's true that the servers are in Sacramento, well, that would be extremely stupid. Square basically screwed EC players a bit, EU players playing on NA, SA players (specifically Brazil) playing on NA and some Canadians perhaps? Like... wtf. Square should see how RIOT/Tencent (one of, if not the most,sucessful gaming company) handled their NA servers for League of Legends.



    Yes, LoL ≠ FFXIV but that's not the point. So yeah, why not choose a centralized location? zzzzz. Don't forget that even if some of you are happy with the new location, you will find players in DF/PF that have been negatively affected by it and guess what? You will have to play with them (if they don't unsub), so don't complain about wipes or poor performance, that's on S.E.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kethic View Post
    It's a fair question, but I imagine they thought about it more than people in this thread are giving them credit for.
    People are reflecting the correct amount of credit they deserve, this is what you run into when you lack communication, it is deserving. For me, they have not shown they did any research on what the best location may be for ping values. I suspect they do not care because under 200 ms= playable, and so far I do not see proof of that. Even at 40 ms I need to know the fights and predict the moves otherwise I will be hit even though I am out of the circle. People complain about cleric being weird at times when it comes to clicking it, unresponsive it is called, again this has to do with the poor processing with the servers and the lag I am referring to. So our only hope is the processing power really hits the mark and that under 200 ms = playable is truly the case. They are assuming this will be the case so they did not care about researching ping values for different locations for different people.

    SE is lacking this:
    http://www.cinemablend.com/games/You...oon-78187.html
    Moderate latency increases (up to ~45 ms) in the Pacific Northwest and outlying regions (Hawaii, other Pacific Islands, Japan, etc)
    Minor latency increases (up to ~30 ms) across the rest of the west coast of North America.
    Generally neutral effects across a broad strip of the Mountain States and Saskatchewan
    Moderate to major latency reductions (up to ~50 ms for much of the East Coast) across the entire eastern half of North America
    Doing that (showing research) and people will give them more credit. Going "Lul this will hurt people from the EU, does not show they care about the concerns of this other then hoping under 200 ms = works (right now it doesn't we will see tomorrow)
    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    To the people constantly telling everyone to "stop complaining" and "wait and see", could you kindly just leave us be?

    Some of you people have WAY too much faith in SE, to the point it's worrying. They make mistakes. They've made plenty in the past, and they're about to make one now. Voicing our concern with this is perfectly reasonable. They made a silly decision, and hopefully if the negative response is big enough they'll rethink it and move their servers to a central location in time where everyone can be happy.

    Since when did waiting and pretending everything would just work out ever lead to anything good? Criticism is what pushes things forward, not sugarcoating and white knighting. We have horrendous balance issues to the point where tanks and healers couldn't get a new job for 4.0 because everyone wanted to pretend things are fine. Just think about that for a second.
    I agree with the point, but disagree on the waiting thing in specific for this moment. We need to wait and actually test the game, the old servers where very bad and we may see improvements despite the increased ping.

    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post
    Oh jeez, Ricochet already delays my next GCD regardless of how much I spam the button. And even just using Fuma Shuriken has a lag. Suddenly not looking forward to this very much :l
    Use 1 ogcd in between gcds, remember the cast needs to finish the recast before the next one, doing only one ogcd in between gcd should not clip. however the new servers may process better, so never know.

    Quote Originally Posted by anryo View Post
    Well, maybe it wouldnt get any better, but they actually made WAY worse for a lot of people. Ok, its better for some people from US, but honestly, going from 90 to 50 is basically a 0 difference, gameplaywise. Meanwhile, my ping went from 180 to 260. Its already not so easy to adapt to a high ping, specially if you raid or if you use classes that have a lot of double weaving skills and shit like that on rotation. But with 260 ping its honestly really REALLY hard and probably not even worth to try.
    Thanks SE. Very good move.
    Yeah this is why a more center place would been better. Too little people get something out of it, and those that do is a little amount, while more people lose out while for higher amounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    I just want to show you guys something.


    http://imgur.com/a/RjIjU

    On the left is my friend. He lives in southern NJ and has to use Comcast (no other providers in his area). On the right is me. I live in northern DE and chose Verizon (Comcast is also available here). We both pinged the same address at the same time and got very, very different results. The geographic difference between our locations is negligible when we're pinging out to CA- but his times are almost double mine. How your ISP routes your information matters far more than your physical location if you're in NA connecting to a NA server. He's going to have to use WTFast or something similar to re-route the information to get his latency down to match mine despite us living just an hour and a half apart.

    Also, we won't know for sure where they're going to be until they're live, so save the panic for when they're up and you can no longer dodge landslides in Titan EX. :P
    comcast is crap though, I wish I could get Verizon, lol
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