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    Didnt you say that 200 or morevis ok?
    Why kill for 150 if more is ok?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XSamsaraLotusX View Post
    Didnt you say that 200 or morevis ok?
    Why kill for 150 if more is ok?
    To get better? I'd probably lop your head off for a second banana on a banana split.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    I'm not an expert but maybe...
    Then don't talk about what you have no idea what you're talking about. Srsly, why create even more threads to post about something you don't know? If you're not affected by it, enjoy your game and stop turning the forums even worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    So maybe the problem isn't your internet but your connection to it. I use an Ethernet cable to connect to my modem it cost me less than 20 bucks and it fixed similar issues I had been having with overwatch and dark souls back when I was using wireless.

    I'm not an expert but maybe you guys should do some research about your own gear before you cry fowl.
    This is a red herring and not implicity true. The biggest component of your ping does not generally come from your connection to the router and is usually somewhere in transit between your Router and the destination. For instance, I am on a FiOS connection connected to my router with a cable. Running a traceroute I get this:
    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms Wireless_Broadband_Router.home [192.168.1.1]
    2 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms lo0-100.NWRKNJ-VFTTP-304.verizon-gni.net [108.53.177.1]
    3 9 ms 12 ms 12 ms B3304.NWRKNJ-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [100.41.139.224]
    4 * * * Request timed out.
    5 * * * Request timed out.
    6 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms 0.et-11-1-0.BR2.NYC4.ALTER.NET [140.222.239.35]
    7 10 ms 12 ms 12 ms NTT.customer.alter.net [152.179.49.38]
    8 11 ms 15 ms 14 ms ae-3.r24.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.61]
    9 100 ms 90 ms 89 ms ae-2.r20.sttlwa01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.4.13]
    10 88 ms 90 ms 89 ms ae-0.r21.sttlwa01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.54]
    11 91 ms 92 ms 92 ms ae-3.r23.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.124]
    12 98 ms 94 ms 97 ms ae-45.r01.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.175]
    13 96 ms 97 ms 96 ms ae-1.r00.scrmca02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.7.31]
    14 97 ms 94 ms 96 ms xe-0-1-0-1-1.r00.scrmca02.us.ce.gin.ntt.net [129.250.195.46]
    15 94 ms 95 ms 96 ms 204.2.229.234
    16 95 ms 96 ms 94 ms 204.2.229.9
    (Yes, I know there are 2 bad hops there, nothing I can do about that.)

    Notice hop 9? That's an INTERNAL connection on NTT's network (not mine) that shoots my ping up from a nice, low 15ms Max up to the 90s (maxing at 100). Now I am not going to sit here and complain that my connection is ruined (it is slower than it was, but not ruined), but you need to be aware that the vast majority of issues like this are generally not within your own network.
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    When the packets get redirected to Amsterdam instead of going straight to the game servers...90ms to 250+ms ping. I would say thats a reason to complain about the server move. Instead of getting better ping because of the shorter distance in my case i get higher because of stupid routing issues since the move. SE has not even said anything since the move at all, only attempted to fix it by offering a free server move and locked a lot of servers.

    3 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms 172.28.255.29
    4 58 ms 35 ms 34 ms 192.168.255.57
    5 81 ms 39 ms 78 ms 10.208.3.45
    6 33 ms 44 ms 34 ms 10.208.2.50
    7 85 ms 87 ms 87 ms 84.16.8.85
    8 74 ms 74 ms 73 ms 94.142.122.170
    9 158 ms 158 ms 164 ms 94.142.117.229
    10 207 ms 183 ms 166 ms 5.53.6.178
    11 167 ms 170 ms 211 ms ae1-0-ntt-grtamstc1.net.telefonicaglobalsolutions.com [213.140.53.97]
    12 197 ms 179 ms 186 ms ae-4.r25.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.146]
    13 180 ms 172 ms 172 ms ae-5.r23.asbnva02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.6.162]
    14 252 ms 244 ms 328 ms ae-10.r22.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.6.237]
    15 261 ms 251 ms * ae-19.r01.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.27]
    16 328 ms 252 ms * ae-1.r00.scrmca02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.7.31]
    17 250 ms 252 ms 253 ms xe-0-1-0-1-1.r00.scrmca02.us.ce.gin.ntt.net [129.250.195.46]
    18 318 ms 250 ms * 204.2.229.234
    19 288 ms 251 ms 251 ms 204.2.229.9
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    Last edited by MishaLune; 05-19-2017 at 02:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MishaLune View Post
    When the packets get redirected to Amsterdam instead of going straight to the game servers...90ms to 250+ms ping. I would say thats a reason to complain about the server move. Instead of getting better ping because of the shorter distance in my case i get higher because of stupid routing issues since the move. SE has not even said anything since the move at all, only attempted to fix it by offering a free server move and locked a lot of servers.
    Um... why does your traceroute go from Los Angeles to Spain to Amsterdam then BACK to California? Something's really wrong here...
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    Thats the thing, i dont know. A normal ping to a server on california or anywhere on the west coast is around 110ms ping for me. It is only when i ping or trace the server that i get such high ping and i noticed the routing to europe when i did a trace. Its not just me that has this issue, people from central america are being redirected to the east coast before going to the game server. Even people from south america are being redirected to europe before the packets start heading to sacramento. It HAS to be on SE end, not ours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishaLune View Post
    Thats the thing, i dont know. A normal ping to a server on california or anywhere on the west coast is around 110ms ping for me. It is only when i ping or trace the server that i get such high ping and i noticed the routing to europe when i did a trace. Its not just me that has this issue, people from central america are being redirected to the east coast before going to the game server. Even people from south america are being redirected to europe before the packets start heading to sacramento. It HAS to be on SE end, not ours.
    Well, not really on the SE side, they just set up their IP and the systems choose which way to route things. It's odd that your traffic goes across so many private nodes like that and ends up in Spain. It's almost acting like you're running a VPN that terminates in Spain and then the traffic routes back over the open internet. I don't know what else would cause it to throw your traffic out that far.
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    I love the new data center. I went from over 200ms latency, to about 85ms. It's amazing and I couldn't be happier. While I feel for those whose ping worsened, I think this was a great move by SE. Let's not forget the new data center allowed them to make positive updates to the game, like increasing inventory.
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    All this talk of ping I am reminded of the Adult Swim Robot Chicken sketch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wh-2aAC28w
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