Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post


As for SilverQuick, stop throwing shade at people who aren't happy with the massive overhaul 3.0 did to jobs.

They main'ed those jobs long before you even started playing, most stop playing because of the slap in the face it was. For everyone who started playing FFXIV after 3.0, the main complaint is simple. back in 2013 SE added a "pet" job called Summoner that played very similar to vanilla WoW Warlock, which is fine since BLM cover the glass cannon dps. We had our beefs like tri-disaster, egi size and appearance, and Garuda's contagion. Yoshi-P said in the next expansion we could expect to get Ramuh, Shiva, and Levi as pets. Then 3.0 hit and we got a Bahamut head with pew pew lasers. The problem is, like many other "enhancements" 3.0 did to other jobs, it didn't further the original design people played for 2 years.

If you think veteran summoner's are mad, go talk to Veteran Bards and how much they enjoyed wanderer's minuet.
Yeah I get that... but dude... lets face reality here.

The changes in 3.0 and moving towards the Dreadwyrm Trance and Bahamut Teraflare really ARE the direction people wanted to go with. The job is much more powerful... and popular than it ever was.

This one is starting to fit the actual FF Summoner.

Some of these people really are just living in their own little world.

While I understand they want to go backwards to the old version of the job or the half assed version that was the FFXI summoner. The reality is, that old FFXIV Summoner was incredibly unpopular... and by all accounts weak. And I can personally vouch for how crappy the old FFXI Summoner was too.

The people who actually play the job want to move in the direction of the Heavensward changes... that IS what really made the job good and fun to play.

As to the old Arcanist powers that are still with the SMN, I have no problem with it, because it was the BASE job... and the Summoner was the Prestige job. So I accept it still will use the old powers of the base job as a base layer to work from with the additions of the things you learned later as a Summoner.

Nothing wrong with that, given the history of the individual who started as an Arcanist and how he became a Summoner and is still learning how to be one.

Still no one can argue with the fact the Heavenward changes have made the job incredibly popular and powerful now.