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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibian View Post
    it should be how you as a character play and perform based on the mechanics of the fight. Unfortunately, with animation lock and server issues, these interfere really with taking gameplay to the next level to elitism.
    sorry to burst the bubble, but thats exactly what the ifrit fight is. its not about what skills you got, its about how you move. You can literally do the fight with a single job leveled to 50 and the rest to 16-20 TOPS, even more, as a healer, you could theoretically do it naked without any issues.

    Sentinel is a very strong skill, but so is chainspell, so is ferocity 2, so is blindside 2, so is invigorate 2, so is second wind 2, so is bloodbath 2, cure 3 and sac 3 and the nerfed to hell emulate. they all have something in common, theyre all acquired in the 40s. hell with how strong sentinel is, it should be a rank 48 skill, be glad its not a rank 48 skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raijin View Post
    sorry to burst the bubble, but thats exactly what the ifrit fight is. its not about what skills you got, its about how you move. You can literally do the fight with a single job leveled to 50 and the rest to 16-20 TOPS, even more, as a healer, you could theoretically do it naked without any issues.

    Sentinel is a very strong skill, but so is chainspell, so is ferocity 2, so is blindside 2, so is invigorate 2, so is second wind 2, so is bloodbath 2, cure 3 and sac 3 and the nerfed to hell emulate. they all have something in common, theyre all acquired in the 40s. hell with how strong sentinel is, it should be a rank 48 skill, be glad its not a rank 48 skill.
    I see you re a mage with sentinel on you sign

    now day, doesn't matter you re tank,DD or healer w/o sentinel = no pt for you, w/e argument wont give you a ifrit pt w/o sentinel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    I see you re a mage with sentinel on you sign

    now day, doesn't matter you re tank,DD or healer w/o sentinel = no pt for you, w/e argument wont give you a ifrit pt w/o sentinel
    did you read what i posted? i got sentinel AFTER i killed ifrit several times in order to make the fight easier for myself. it is in NO WAY required.

    what youre saying is the classic gearscore dilemma that WoW had. like gearscore, sentinel is a mechanism to select players. Like gearscore, you dont need Minimum gear X or ability Y con complete it. only to make things easier. So in PuGs, X amount of gearscore/ X ability, is "REQUIRED" to have which realistically speakin, is not the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raijin View Post
    did you read what i posted? i got sentinel AFTER i killed ifrit several times in order to make the fight easier for myself. it is in NO WAY required.

    what youre saying is the classic gearscore dilemma that WoW had. like gearscore, sentinel is a mechanism to select players. Like gearscore, you dont need Minimum gear X or ability Y con complete it. only to make things easier. So in PuGs, X amount of gearscore/ X ability, is "REQUIRED" to have which realistically speakin, is not the case.
    guess I miss read it.

    And I dont think I was wrong when say that either, maybe you havent but I have: No sentinel = no ifrit . So I just ignore the ifrit until it got fix at the point there will be no : no sentinel = no ifrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    guess I miss read it.

    And I dont think I was wrong when say that either, maybe you havent but I have: No sentinel = no ifrit . So I just ignore the ifrit until it got fix at the point there will be no : no sentinel = no ifrit
    then get a different linkshell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raijin View Post
    then get a different linkshell.
    that s random pt, not my shell

    ninja edit: and I feel that reply begin to go far away from main topic. How I play is up to my decide
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    How I play is up to my decide
    But how the game is designed and the opinions of others are not. You're just making it harder on yourself really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    that s random pt, not my shell

    ninja edit: and I feel that reply begin to go far away from main topic. How I play is up to my decide
    The way i play is up to me to decide argument goes both ways buddy

    Don't complain that someone decided to play it safe and chose to invite a player that has sentinel over one that doesn't.

    PuGs ALWaYS choose the path of least resistance. You have ls mates if you want to go against th currents. I did
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    Last edited by Raijin; 10-25-2011 at 05:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    that s random pt, not my shell

    ninja edit: and I feel that reply begin to go far away from main topic. How I play is up to my decide
    If how you play is up to you to decide, then who those leaders (the one that requires you to have Sentinel) wants to invite is up to them to decide?

    If you are not happy, start a party that does NOT require Sentinel, based on the reply here, I am sure you can get more than a full group to go, and yes you can beat it, I've done it with over half the party doesn't have Sentinel or missed their Sentinel.

    One of the TA run I went to yesterday, we were killing so fast that 5/8 missed the Sentinel cause they popped it right before the nails come out, and we still pulled through with 3 dead lancers after hellfire (I guess what you are going to say next is nerf chainspell, cause we got everyone back up thanks to that).
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