Tank Stances.

[SyzzleSpark]

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Jpec, I submit this video for your personal edification and hopefully enjoyment: https://youtu.be/EoClXjDizZk Notice the complete lack of Grit and the fact that only a single heal was directed specifically at me. Also notice that once the pull settled I never dropped below ~65% HP. Notice the healer DPSing, a lot. Notice that only a single CD was used, and that given how low my HP (didn't) drop, it probably wasn't even necessary. Notice that I watch my healer for several moments prior to the pull to ensure that they are prepared. Most importantly, note the complete lack of party coordination (via chat) this required. These were all pugs, we weren't in discord or anything of the such.

Nobody is saying this is something beginners should do right out of the gate. But once you're at level cap it is absolutely within any player's ability (barring a disability) to do these kinds of pulls in EX dungeons and not make the healer suffer, assuming proper cooldown usage and knowledge of one's job's abilities (Notice how I sprint on DRK since I know I'm not going to need a single tick of TP for what is about to happen).

Pulls like this don't make you a bad tank, they make you a good one. I queued into this dungeon and did a single big pull without a word to my party members and was immediately able to gauge their response. Had the response been poor, I would have adjusted, pulled smaller, played more defensively. But the response was not poor. They all AoE'd, none of them pulled threat before the pull was settled, and the healer was not at all shy with cleric stance. Combining that observation with knowledge of what I am capable of, I was able to do 90% of the dungeon out of Grit (mostly only using it for the first 3-5 GCDs of a pull or boss to establish threat lead before dropping it). This kind of party awareness is integral to tanking in general, and had I chosen to stay in tank stance I would have been blatantly ignoring half the information provided by said awareness.

Imagine your SO asks you to do the dishes and take out the garbage. You get home from work and get a text that they had some extra time and that they have already done the dishes. So you take out the garbage, and then you come back and empty your kitchen cabinets/drawers of all dishes and silverware, load the dishwasher, wash them again, and empty it. That's what keeping tank stance 24/7 is like. Superfluous. Unnecessary. Redundant. Excessive. Uncalled-for. Useless. Obsessive compulsive, even.

Lastly, judging from the interactions I've seen you make note of on more than one occasion here on the forums between yourself and this FC healer of yours, I cautiously suspect that they are holding you back and possibly even bad. Good healers and tanks increase each other's collective DPS, not lower it.

op asked for tank stance, not drk's tank stance or warrior's, try to do that huge mega pull with a full on geared paladin. still in dps stance? the friendly healer will shout shield oath please in ur face.

This is more a symptom of PLD's lack of AoE damage than their need for tank stance. On PLD dropping tank stance would barely increase party DPS on a large pull because they simply aren't pumping out enough AoE fast enough. The PLD wouldn't take any more damage than the other tanks, but the mobs would be alive and thus dealing damage considerably longer.