4.0 specialization

[Silverbane]

How would you feel if in 5.0, the devs would suddenly decide that you can only pick 3 DoW/M jobs and 1 DoL job to specialise in, with content that can only be accessed on said specialised jobs. Would you still find it great that it'd "encourage" having multiple characters? If you don't see that as a punishment, then I don't know what to tell you.

Is that how far you have to go to "make" your point? An absurd hypothetical?
It's a game. We play by their rules, and they change them for reasons that are not your reasons.
Me, I'll adapt and have fun or I'll leave.

Any "punishment" you might think you are suffering is self-inflicted.

[javid]

Is that how far you have to go to "make" your point? An absurd hypothetical?
It's a game. We play by their rules, and they change them for reasons that are not your reasons.
Me, I'll adapt and have fun or I'll leave.

Any "punishment" you might think you are suffering is self-inflicted.

I agree its subjective on how one can view the crafting meta change from 2.x to 3 and now moving into 4! So instead of referring to "punishment" lets say disadvantage?! We were able to do something in the past that we can no longer do...the rules changed. And whether or not the rules changed for the better depends on who you ask.


FACTS:
SE doesn't want OMNI crafting to be mandatory for all crafters that want to participate in the SE crafting economy.
FACTS:
Originally (probably still the case) SE wanted omni crafters to remain supreme even though they didn't want it mandatory.

Opinion (mine )
I would like which ever system will stabilize the crafting marketing environment. Fair competition where time invested matters but time invested ALONE doesn't overwhelm the contribution/participation of others that are at least fairly invested in respect to the heavy time investor. I.E. A guy that can play the game 5-6 hrs a day everyday IMO SHOULD be compensated in proportions to his efforts (and the luck of the free market system) comparable to another guy that only spends 1-3 hrs a day everyday accomplishing the similar task. However the system should not make the 1-3 hrs guy obsolete when in competition with the 5-6 guy. It is my OPINION the 4.0 rumored changes will accomplish this.

The more dedicated players (whether it be several character creation/managements or a single character constantly SPC swapping) will reap what they sow without completely displacing the one to three crafting class(es) player.

EVEN STILL..... this thread was a suppose to be about what you're hoping to find with the SPECIALIST SYSTEM WE KNOW WE'LL GET !! So lets get bk to what do you want to see?????

[Silverbane]

It is my OPINION the 4.0 rumored changes will ...

You formed an opinion based on rumors ... ? Well, I shouldn't be surprised.
But it is my OPINION you could find a better use for your time.

Stormblood crafting will be what it will be, which we don't know.
Whatever it is, it's not going to change in the next 6 weeks.
When we do know, we can have intelligent discussions of how to adapt, or
we can post our final bitter and pathetic sayonaras.

But arguments based on opinions based on speculation based on rumors? I'll pass.

[Nezerius]

Is that how far you have to go to "make" your point? An absurd hypothetical?

It's not absurd, since it's exactly what happened with DoH jobs.

It's a game. We play by their rules, and they change them for reasons that are not your reasons.
Me, I'll adapt and have fun or I'll leave.

Just because it's a game, doesn't mean its players can't complain about a change that they don't like. It isn't always the players that have to adapt to a change. The fact that players complained is why we're no longer in the same situation as the one in 3.0-3.1, with suboptimal crafted DoW/M gear, and the awful Favors system.

EVEN STILL..... this thread was a suppose to be about what you're hoping to find with the SPECIALIST SYSTEM WE KNOW WE'LL GET !! So lets get bk to what do you want to see?????

What I'm wanting to see is a system that favours time investment on one character, without forcing that time requirement on crafters that are only able/interested to put in a limited amount of time. If I want to spend more time to be able to craft everything on one character, then I should be able to do so. The fact that both crafting and gathering will no longer have weekly caps in 4.0 suggests that the system is moving into this direction.

[Silverbane]

Just because it's a game, doesn't mean its players can't complain about a change that they don't like.

But that's not what's happening here. Here, I see that some people are complaining about changes they don't even know will happen, based on flimsy rumors.

[Nezerius]

But that's not what's happening here. Here, I see that some people are complaining about changes they don't even know will happen, based on flimsy rumors.

But we know that they'll be keeping the specialist system, that they'll be adding new specialist abilities. We know that they'll be scrapping blue scrips, removing the weekly cap on red scrips, and adding yellow scrips. We also know that yellow scrips won't have a weekly cap. Nothing crafting or gathering related will be tied to a weekly cap. These aren't just flimsy rumours, they've all been confirmed in the most recent live letter.