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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Having some dicks at an event doesn't normalize being a dick, but getting rid of the event in the first place means nobody gets to partake.
    I 100% agree but the dicks are only one half of the question, what do we do about the players who don't want to improve? The tool already exists and if people want to improve, they will seek it out. Or use one of the many other tools in the game already to improve. That's why I think part of the push for the official parser is more for validation. That the people who use it to perfect and polish their rotation to such a mirror shine, want to feel acknowledged and having an official parser would some how lead to that. Or I am interpreting things weirdly again. I guess I just don't see the huge boon from making an official version of something that already exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    I 100% agree but the dicks are only one half of the question, what do we do about the players who don't want to improve? The tool already exists and if people want to improve, they will seek it out. Or use one of the many other tools in the game already to improve. That's why I think part of the push for the official parser is more for validation. That the people who use it to perfect and polish their rotation to such a mirror shine, want to feel acknowledged and having an official parser would some how lead to that. Or I am interpreting things weirdly again. I guess I just don't see the huge boon from making an official version of something that already exists.
    I agree that there will be people who never want to improve, and you ask me what we're supposed to do about them- but I don't think either of us or any game developer has an answer to that. As the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. The only incentive to getting better in content that requires 200 dps (Or less, save for a couple fights with an actual enrage in dungeons) is your instilled desire to do better. Some people are horrified of 3rd party program use, especially when some people still say that Yoshi P has a zero tolerance stance on it which isn't true. Maybe some of these people have the inner drive to want to do better, but don't necessarily want to risk breaking rules or simply don't learn well in textbook situations, like flatly reading an opener and rotation and memorizing and adapting it to all situations.

    I just think that more focus on those who want to get better should take precedence over the people with absolutely zero drive to get better, seeing as they're already at their destination and someone who wants to get better is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    I 100% agree but the dicks are only one half of the question, what do we do about the players who don't want to improve? The tool already exists and if people want to improve, they will seek it out. Or use one of the many other tools in the game already to improve. That's why I think part of the push for the official parser is more for validation. That the people who use it to perfect and polish their rotation to such a mirror shine, want to feel acknowledged and having an official parser would some how lead to that. Or I am interpreting things weirdly again. I guess I just don't see the huge boon from making an official version of something that already exists.
    It's an echo chamber at this point, whether you are pro-parser (and actually use it in good faith) or you are anti-parser, and the reasons behind both sides.

    But the above quote is one that sticks to me the most. For me, I do not believe an in-game parser is necessary. Points have already been well-made with harassment and number-shaming (it exists whether or not you believe it) and their well-intentioned uses.

    I believe that a great portion of the player base will not be not responsible enough with it should this be implemented. But please don't get it twisted. I am not against having this in-game parser, I just do not believe it is necessary.
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    Last edited by Centershock; 04-29-2017 at 09:30 AM.