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  1. #21
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    Nihonnick's Avatar
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    One thing to keep in mind.

    These items are made just for the MogStation, they wouldn't exsist otherwise.
    Its easy to say "This should of been gotten in game". But it wouldn't of been made.

    I do however agree that seasonal items of past years should be gotten from a vendor the following year.

    But with clear evidence that the MS cash is flowing back into the game (servers are expensive!) I'm happy to purchase things I missed or want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    2 things.
    1. Mogstation is cosmetic items ONLY and not a necessity.
    2. You do not NEED it and you are not ENTITLED to it.

    So if you dont NEED it, dont BUY it.
    That is just your way to think about „optional“ items.
    Did you ever expect, they will implement emotes in Mogstation only?

    It’s not just „cosmetic“ items now, actually a lot of really good looking gear, emotes and mounts, or chocobo-barding are now implemented in shop only.
    Man that sucks!

    And to all who think it’s just cosmetic, wait till there will be new gear or anima boosts are something. This WILL come, sooner or later, like the emotes.
    For me and lots of other players too , raid gear in mog-shop would be seen as „optional“ too.

    We pay a monthly subscribtion, and the addons cost too.

    I know Square Enix have to maximize profit too, like every other company, but this is getting out of hand…

    Btw. glamour is the truly endgame
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonea View Post
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    I see the idea behind it, sure it will be better/definitely cheaper for those who missed on these items but my personal logic and reason behind being okay with buying those if I missed them is - they are seasonal event rewards, meaning they are valued of 1 month sub, I wasn't paying during this month be it because I wasn't playing or wasn't even aware of the game's existence. I pay equal or close to 1 month sub to get this item I missed on. I'm personally okay with that. Play dead and Eastern dance, yes it would've been better to obtain with quests but I also understand servers moving and upgrades require cash. :c
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihonnick View Post
    One thing to keep in mind.

    These items are made just for the MogStation, they wouldn't exsist otherwise.
    Odin horse was shown off before the mogstation existed iirc (and it existed in the game anyway). Even after they added Odin as a trial, they stuck his horse in the mog station. That's the easiest and earliest example of something that absolutely 100% would have been an in-game reward if not for the cash shop existing.
    Also to those of you saying "the mogstation is cosmetic items only it's called optional for a reason ))))" - almost all of the gear in the game is cosmetic only because its lifespan is so short. Keep in mind that the only real, lasting rewards from the last three raid tiers have been mounts and minions.
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  5. #25
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arg0n View Post
    And to all who think it’s just cosmetic, wait till there will be new gear or anima boosts are something. This WILL come, sooner or later, like the emotes.
    For me and lots of other players too , raid gear in mog-shop would be seen as „optional“
    You're using a slippery slope fallacy. You're pretending that A leads inevitably to Z when there's no real reason to think that it does. The devs have repeatedly stated that the MogStation items will always be purely optional and cosmetic and will never include actual gear with stats.

    Really good looking gear, mounts, emotes, and Chocobo barding are all still purely cosmetic, as they have absolutely no bearing on your ability to complete a dungeon (except for the ability to complete it while looking fabulous). So far, they have not strayed from their stated intention and there is no reason to believe that they will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arg0n View Post
    It’s not just „cosmetic“ items now, actually a lot of really good looking gear, emotes and mounts, or chocobo-barding are now implemented in shop only.
    Man that sucks!
    Might be my bad, but I fail to see how a dance or an emote is essential to anyone's gameplay. We got 2 new ones not too long ago in-game for doing the MSQ (HW), and now they added a couple of trivial ones to the MS. What exactly is getting out of hand? I don't see a glamour or an emote or a chocobo barding for that matter sth that would break the game. MS is a great way for people to catch up with all the 'promotions', 'exclusives' and 'event items' that they might have missed out on. That's why they are called optional items. In-game gear that gives you stats is not an optional item. You NEED it, and you need to EARN it. FF has been around for quite a while and I just don't see them going the WoW way with boosts or the ESO way with a ton of exp boost scrolls and such things.
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  7. #27
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    Um... they're adding dances and emotes in quests all the time, aren't you paying attention? The Mog Station dances are extra ones they work on. Although ti would be nice if they added them into the game via NPCs (and I agree that the eastern dance could have been acquired in Doma), I often read in these forums that they don't add any emotes or dances into the game via quests at all anymore. Which is not true. We get emotes in almost every event, and we got 3 beast tribe dances in HW, which are all available via quests.
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  8. #28
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    Tal Young
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    The cash shop isn't purely cosmetic. Extra retainers aren't vanity, jump potions aren't vanity.

    To the people saying stuff wouldn't exist, with maybe a couple of exceptions I think it would, most of it was created for events or is made of reused or recoloured assets.

    SE never said the sub wouldn't cover essential server upgrades, they said that the cash shop funds can be used to pay for them. I don't for one second believe that our subs aren't enough to cover everything, I can however easily believe that money won't be allocated to FFXIV until certain MogStation milestones are cleared though.
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  9. #29
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    Retainers aren't available in the cash shop. They're an additional payment akin to a name change or a server transfer. The only difference is that they're a monthly payment.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aronys View Post
    Retainers aren't available in the cash shop. They're an additional payment akin to a name change or a server transfer. The only difference is that they're a monthly payment.
    It's extra storage space, except instead of selling it you like most MMO's, they rent it you.

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    Last edited by Jandor; 04-27-2017 at 05:59 PM.

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