Mogstation and New Content

[Brannigan]

There is a reason most subscription MMOs also have a cash shop, game development is expensive; while the costs of game development don't require a cash shop but they are very attractive to the business.

The reason subscription games have a cash shop is because they can get away with it. WoW added a cash shop when it had like four million subs. Like with many products, MMO prices are determined by what they think customers are willing to pay. I'm confident that they could continue development on FFXIV with income from (fully priced) box sales alone.

And I already explained this in a previous post. This conversation is about optional items. And this topic only came to be when optional items were introduced (the topic in general, not the thread). I don't remember people complaining about paid name changes or paid server transfers <-- also a part of Mog Station. So, what is it? Is the entire Mog Station (as the title of this thread suggests) the issue, or is it just the optional items?

Name changes and server transfers are services which make no sense to be added to the game content's rewards. Mounts, minions, clothes, and emotes all come from in-game content - events, quests, raids, etc. Putting these things in the cash shop makes it feel like they're taking content out of the game, since often times the motivation players feel to do content will be inspired by the promise of rewards. Would anyone have done Diadem 1.0 if it didn't have the rewards it did? How often would you run dungeons if they didn't drop weekly cap tomestones?

I think this is especially important since SE invalidates the reason to do content so often by making its rewards obsolete (Every dungeon drops obsolete gear on release, raid gear gets killed every 7 months). Putting cosmetic rewards into old content can revitalize it and get people out there having fun. Look at the craftable/dyeable coil gear, for example. They could have done something similar a couple of patches into Stormblood with the Heavens' Ward gear, but I suppose they gotta get those fatty stacks of yen for a bunch of reskins that are already in the game.

[Aronys]

Retainers aren't available in the cash shop. They're an additional payment akin to a name change or a server transfer. The only difference is that they're a monthly payment.

[Jandor]

Retainers aren't available in the cash shop. They're an additional payment akin to a name change or a server transfer. The only difference is that they're a monthly payment.

It's extra storage space, except instead of selling it you like most MMO's, they rent it you.

[Synrin]

It's extra storage space, except instead of selling it you like most MMO's, they rent it you.

It's the same with characters and the sub itself. If you pay the entry level one you get to have 1 character, if you pay for the standard, you get more characters. Not everyone needs more than 1 character, and not everyone needs extra retainers. It's that easy. It's just the player who has to figure out what they need and if they want to pay for it on a monthly basis. It's just like any other premium subscription. Take Spotify as an example. You can listen to music for free, but how you get to listen to it depends on whether you pay or not. Same thing, can't escape from that, and it is ridiculous to blame or call out on it a service that requires money to be up and running, just because they have a business model that offers different services that don't cater to everyone's financial abilities at this very moment.

Edit:

This has nothing to do with personal value. This is about someone saying that not having a certain emote is hindering their gameplay. These additional emotes can only enrich gameplay, add more to it, but not having them does not affect the basis of gameplay what so ever. The base is still there, and we already have a lot of extra to enrich it. These few add-ons only serve to further enrich it.

But that is exactly a personal value. They find other people being able to play dead hindering and they envy them if they cannot do it themselves. Wow what a shit game, right? That's how you get a salty player, just like when people flame BiS raider because he put time and effort in it :3

[Aronys]

But that is exactly a personal value. They find other people being able to play dead hindering and they envy them if they cannot do it themselves. Wow what a shit game, right? That's how you get a salty player, just like when people flame BiS raider because he put time and effort in it :3

Well, that's a different thing then. The solution is easy. For the BiS stuff... git gud. For the mog station stuff... get a job. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Felis]

It's extra storage space, except instead of selling it you like most MMO's, they rent it you.

Yes, but not in the moogle shop. They are outside of it, like server transfer and name change.

[Watachy]

I can't understand people defending the MogStation....

How are those items optinnal ? This is content as much as any armor, mount, dance etc...

SE is just getting more and more greedy as time goes.

[Aronys]

Because you can still play the game without them.
Optional =/= necessary

[Jandor]

Because you can still play the game without them.
Optional =/= necessary

Mate, we could all look like minecraft characters by default and the game would still be playable.
Most of us wouldn't though, because vanity actually is pretty important in a game like this.

[Aronys]

Mate, we could all look like minecraft characters by default and the game would still be playable.
Most of us wouldn't though, because vanity actually is pretty important in a game like this.

The game offers plenty of vanity items already. The mog station ones are extra. Do you go to a restaurant and expect that something extra would be free just because it fits with your meal?