Coils of Bahamut... and its inconsistent challenge level.

[Crysten]

What I did not realize... There are so many insta-kill mechanics in the end fights at times that I seriously wonder how people got through this thing with 50th level characters. This thing wipes parties of 60th level unsynced.

But that's kinda useless given that the only thing you'd go there for now is storyline.... but I do see now why I sat in the queue for so long and no one went in. If this is that hard unsynced... why would anyone in their right mind do it at level 50. .

Back at level 50 it was harder. Not just the level difference, but you also had no Echo and they actually nerfed several aspects of all the fights in coil.

Hate to break it to you, but if your FC had trouble with Coil unsynced at 60, you all need to quit sucking.

If I could have queued with a full party (aka duty finder) I'm sure we could have handled it, but with only 1 tank 1 healer and 3 DPS we didn't have the numbers to do it even unsynced.

Then take two tanks or have one of your DPS tank the second mob? Come on.

Asking for nerfs to fights that can already be facerolled by a competent four man party at level 60? Get out.

[Silverquick]

Back at level 50 it was harder. Not just the level difference, but you also had no Echo and they actually nerfed several aspects of all the fights in coil.

Hate to break it to you, but if your FC had trouble with Coil unsynced at 60, you all need to quit sucking.

Asking for nerfs to fights that can already be facerolled by a competent four man party at level 60? Get out.

Really?

Then why exactly did the mechanic jam up and freeze the entire fight so we were stuck there?

[LunaFaye]

Really?

Then why exactly did the mechanic jam up and freeze the entire fight so we were stuck there?

Because some mechanics can't be skipped/ignored/pushed and will lead to a full party wipe when being attempted. Just look at the fights itself, if you see that some mechanics would overlap with a phase change, that can't be avoided, slow down your dps and give it a second. We've done that back in the day too, after most of the parties are geared enough you'll find yourself in scenarios that needs you to alternate the upcoming events and actions. Coil can't be afk'd and face rolled in comparison to a lot of the newer content that has the option to skip a specific part of the fight itself, if you have good dps in your group. After the nerfs have been applied, you can actually solo or duo the first 5 turns of coil, but even tho you can eat one or two dive bombs without dying if you're not smacked into the fire wall. You can't just stand in the middle eat all the bombs, don't stand on the green circles during phase change and then hope that you're going to survive it and there's other circumstances/examples too, especially when it comes to the higher turns of coil.