Coils of Bahamut... and its inconsistent challenge level.

[Moomba33]

It was the high end raid of 2.0. It got some adjustments when it went into DF (for example nerfing attacks like High Voltage so you weren't doomed if you got no party members that could Silence it) but ultimately it was content most people tackled in statics or learning groups in PF and not blind DF runs.

It's very doubtful that SE will adjust it now. You can push through most of it easily with unsync and only need to learn to deal with a couple of instant kills. Heck I've seen 3 tanks kill the t11 boss from like 30% after the rest of us died to botched tethers.

[Xx-ReiN-xX]

have you consider people cleared it at lvl 50 with ilvl 90 - 110 before heavenward and PRE- nerf?

[SendohJin]

Then you'd better be for updating the actual content and rewards to level 60... maybe people will start running it again.

they don't really care if people don't run it again. they are not going to spend any dev time on it.

[Silverquick]

What surprises me is that no one is seeing the irony in this... or why its happening...

I honestly would love to do this one for real...

But that's never going to happen if you can't get anyone to queue for it or do it...

You can't have both... you need it to be appropriate for level 50... or update it to level 60...

Walk in the middle of the road like that and you only get squished...

[LunaFaye]

Out of nostalgic reasons I'll link this parody that pretty much explains the feelings a lot or most of us had, as coil were newly introduced, this pretty much summons it up for the majority.

The reason I ran it in the past and still do, is the challenge because while you can skip a lot of mechanics, it's not like current 60 content that can be skipped anywhere. People need to learn the mechanics in itself before even attempting these runs and learn their jobs.

Back in the day, there were barely options to optimize your gear, in comparison to nowadays and the ways SE improved on that. The tome gear we did have to that time (we all remember darklight/myth right?) was utterly crap and the crafted gear (much later introduced) that would have mattered a little bit because of it's over melds, was stat wise absolute bs, I think the only class that actually benefited from that were BLM/SMN & BRD. You couldn't win a cupcake with that gear even if you tried. Min Maxing your gear to that time was important to mid & hardcore players, not so much to casuals obviously. To beat the X primals that were introduced during that time, you needed that gear and even for regular casual content you needed at least that weapon from t5 unless you wanted to grind for years the relic. Or spend days wiping on X-Garuda/X-Titan/X-Ifrit since you weren't able to get the token for the weekly challenge that would grant you an ilvl 90 weapon to that time. And that's why we ran it at level 50.

I personally think looking back, it was the most amazing fun time I've had throughout that game, as well as making lots of friends that were like minded. After you finally beat a turn you felt "god like", nothing and nobody could touch you, the atmosphere on Voip were something you needed to experience, it's hard to explain. But it is what it is, let's just enjoy that video and hope 4.0 will bring us back on track.

[Lilseph]

What surprises me is that no one is seeing the irony in this... or why its happening...

I honestly would love to do this one for real...

But that's never going to happen if you can't get anyone to queue for it or do it...

You can't have both... you need it to be appropriate for level 50... or update it to level 60...

Walk in the middle of the road like that and you only get squished...

Jevona is located in the Aether Datacenter, which includes the most populated NA server (Balmung) and the raiding NA server (Gilgamesh). You shouldn't have problems filling up through cross-server PF to do it at level 50 sync'd. Unsync'd can be done with any amount of people, except for maybe turns like T8 and T9 that require a bare minium amount of players for their mechanics.

[dekarguy]

End game raids and the Ex Primal series aren't intended to be queue up and clear in duty finder with no preparation. They are intended first and foremost for full groups to figure out over multiple runs. They added them to DF as a convenience after they were end-game relevant since cross-server party finder was not yet available. There is still a decent audience of people that attempt them (either synced, unsynced, or min-ilvl synced) for the challenge or to do it for glamours/orchestrion rolls/mats.

If you know the fights, they are all faceroll at 60 with a couple gotchas. (Insta-wipe on Ifrit/Levi/Ramuh, Divebombs on Twintania/Nael/Bahamut)

Every MMO has this "problem" with end-game content, once it is made irrelevant by places with better rewards, it dwindles away. FFXIV has actually handled it better than most by giving people reasons to go back and run old content (Roulettes, Anima, Wondrous Tails, Orchestrion, Glamour)

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

You're asking for previously nerfed content, which is naturally "easier" due to being able to run it vastly overgeared/overlevel to be nerfed due to inability to handle the mechanics, yet you've been dealing with less punishing versions of them all through Heavensward. They just don't kill you or punish you as severely. However in Coil, which has already had many instant kill mechanics removed and the most punishing turns completely defanged, anything that was originally designed to kill you if you messed up will still do so. No amount of overgearing/being over level will ever make up for simply learning the mechanics. . . the same ones you've been (hopefully) doing in dungeons, against hunt mobs, in primal fights and even the 24 man raids now.

[ErryK]

You can't have both... you need it to be appropriate for level 50... or update it to level 60...

Walk in the middle of the road like that and you only get squished...

Who set these rules in place?

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

I ran coils to see the story and unlock the cutscenes on the Unending Journey. Going back for orchestrion rolls is incentive enough considering how valuable they are and the fact that I would like Answers unlocked on my orchestrion >_> Some people like the glamours too.

I dont mind that its still hard at 60 unsynced. It's not something I have to do but rather something I want to do.