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[Vexander]

I think this post explains it fairly well.

Just my personal distaste at this point. You'd think the major magical nation of the modern era would be the one to have the last of the three primary Final Fantasy spellcasters. It'd make a lot of sense for why we haven't seen Red Mages before (Sharlayan doesn't like to share), explains how Red Mages even came about (the lore makes it seem like there were active witch-hunts after the flood so its hard to image Red Mages starting out on Eorzea where they'd get lynched), and matches up well with the Sharlayan aesthetic (nothing we've seen from Ala Mhigo/Gyr Abania remotely looks like that AF set in terms of aesthetic).

[St0rmchild]

Aaannd the theory of Lyse's sister, Yda being the viceroy intensifies XD

Then take a good look at the Stormblood poster

Second row from top, right side. That just screams "villain" to me.

And the girl above her next to Lyse ? I think that's the real Yda.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

The Red Mages seem only Sharlayan in their similar style of dress; the lore differentiates them from Sharlayans pretty well, and I'm happy for that. The Sharlayans - at least outside of Astromancy - don't seem like a particularly magic-focused culture, but a learning/scholarly one (not to be confused with all things Scholar-related). If you look at the Scions, all of them practice different disciplines, but ally under the shared goal of both protecting and deepening their understanding of Eorzea and Hydaelyn as a whole.

Red Magic was an art form born of necessity during an Umbral calamity. That in itself makes it pretty interesting (as a direct link to the War of the Magi), and I do hope they at least touch upon that.

[Heliantheae]

Second row from top, right side. That just screams "villain" to me.

That's just Gentiana. She got lost.

[Vexander]

The Sharlayans - at least outside of Astromancy - don't seem like a particularly magic-focused culture, but a learning/scholarly one (not to be confused with all things Scholar-related).

Don't seem like a particularly magic focused culture? Have you -been- inside the Great Gubal Library? Or the Anti-Tower? Minfilia herself stated that the only reason the Garleans never invaded Old Sharlayan is because they fear the Sharlayan's magical might. In the Warring Triad series, Urianger sets up a barrier that would take any mage over 20 hours to unmake, with its only weakness being those with the Echo.

Sharlayan likely could've existed alongside the likes of Amdapor and Mhach and held its own. Its -the- magical nation of the modern age (as far as we're aware).

[EdwinLi]

Ugh, how is Red Mage linked to Ala Mhigo? Everything about that class screams, 'Sharlayan.' Oh well. It would've been weird if both of the new classes weren't linked to the new areas. Just, very disappointed in SE with this.

I always thought Red Mage screamed "Created by Survivors of Mhach and Amdapor!" considering Red Magic is created by using both Black and White Magic which are limited to a select few people in the world who can find and obtain a White Mage Soulstone and a Black Mage Soulstone. if Sharlayan had a lore being that they are created by survivors of Mhach and Amdapor it would be more logical that they created it but so far no lore points to that.

Now it is confirmed that the Red Mage originates from Survivors of Mhach and Amdapor due to a few managing to avoid the Sixth Umbral Calamity that destroyed their civilization. I am curious how much reference will the Red Mage Job Storyline have to the events of Amdapor and Mhach now that we know there are survivors of Mhach and Amdapor. Not to mention possible few small dialogue adjustments for players who completed the Mhach Raid storyline, Amdapor Dungeon, Black Mage 3.0 storyline, and White Mage 3.0 Storyline.

Just my personal distaste at this point. You'd think the major magical nation of the modern era would be the one to have the last of the three primary Final Fantasy spellcasters. It'd make a lot of sense for why we haven't seen Red Mages before (Sharlayan doesn't like to share), explains how Red Mages even came about (the lore makes it seem like there were active witch-hunts after the flood so its hard to image Red Mages starting out on Eorzea where they'd get lynched), and matches up well with the Sharlayan aesthetic (nothing we've seen from Ala Mhigo/Gyr Abania remotely looks like that AF set in terms of aesthetic).

Looking at Red Mage lore there is no "Witch hunt" that happened after the Great Flood but that Mhach and Amdapor survivors swore to cast aside their old Black Mage and White Mage ways to create a new Mage Organization that works together using both Black and White Magic to benefit the world. However, as the Mhach and Amdapor lore states survivors were very few so I can guess the knowledge of Red Magic did not go very far with so little amount of survivors and the Red Mage Order's history with Mhach and Amdapor along with how White Magic became restricted to the Padjal and Black magic is now forbidden arts to the entire World to prevent another Great Flood from happening again.

Still from how things are it is possible the Red Mage Order went into self exile or remained isolated from the world due to what happened with Mhach and Amdapor which would explain why they choose not to make themselves known to the world else they risk revealing there are survivors of Mhach and Amdapor.

There just a lot of things they go with in Red Mage Storyline now we know they are created by survivors of Mhach and Amdapor along with it being possible this is the first time they began teaching someone from the outside Red Magic due to certain reasons.

[jameseoakes]

I always thought Red Mage screamed "Created by Survivors of Mhach and Amdapor!" considering Red Magic is created by using both Black and White Magic which are limited to a select few people in the world who can find and obtain a White Mage Soulstone and a Black Mage Soulstone. if Sharlayan had a lore being that they are created by survivors of Mhach and Amdapor it would be more logical that they created it but so far no lore points to that.
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Why would White Mage survivors work with Mhach, given that they where broadly irredeemable monster it seems strange the White Mages would corroborate with people from a culture that corrupt.

[Zojha]

Why would White Mage survivors work with Mhach [...]

Because Red Mage has always been a mixture of black and white magic.

Same reason why it was Shinryu that was summoned, rather than Rhalgr or any other deity. Don't try to question fanservice too hard.

[EdwinLi]

Why would White Mage survivors work with Mhach, given that they where broadly irredeemable monster it seems strange the White Mages would corroborate with people from a culture that corrupt.

As the Mhach Raid storyline revealed there were plenty of people who voiced against the Amdapor vs Mhach War and abuse of their Magic on both sides but the people in power marked them as traitors to their nation until both Civilizations lost control during the war and the Great Flood became imminent thus forcing them to ask for the aid of those who were against the war such as Cait Sith's Master.

Many of the people who were against the war became outcast of Amdapor and Mhach which would lead them to settle some where else or else they risk being captured and imprisoned for treason thus they would find shelter in places such as the mountain regions of Gyr Abania.

[jameseoakes]

As the Mhach Raid storyline revealed there were plenty of people who voiced against the Amdapor vs Mhach War and abuse of their Magic on both sides but the people in power marked them as traitors to their nation until both Civilizations lost control during the war and the Great Flood became imminent thus forcing them to ask for the aid of those who were against the war such as Cait Sith's Master.

Many of the people who were against the war became outcast of Amdapor and Mhach which would lead them to settle some where else or else they risk being captured and imprisoned for treason thus they would find shelter in places such as the mountain regions of Gyr Abania.

Seems a little strange that those people would rush to repeat the mistakes there forebears made. I will be interested to see how they try and pull these strands together. Seems a little strange there is a going to be a random tribe of over powered mages just hanging around in the mountains.