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[jameseoakes]

I also think that not many of Mhach and Amdapor people survived. And they joined together because they had the whole world as an enemy.

Reading the lore book, it implies that Amdapor and Nym managed to get most of the populations to higher ground while there militaries tried to hold magically hold back the fold water but there cities where completely devastated.

Mhach on the other hand tried to use the void ark plan which was a complete disaster and there may have been very few people to survive the actual city state of Mhach.

[EdwinLi]

not sharing magic =/= abusing magic
don't been active in the world politic =/= going to war

They want to be watchers of the history, but not actors

Well "in a certain point of view" their actions can be quite similar especially when looking as AST Job Storyline shows us with how they would gladly murder anyone who tries to give knowledge of their arts to outsiders.

Not to mention that the government has been stated to be more corrupted and their "Isolation" now is more to thinking anyone not from Sharlayan are "Savages".

Though I am curious now how Sharlayan are handling their magic more internally than externally. From what we learn from NPCs so far, mostly from AST Job Storyline, there may be some internal abuses going around with the higher ups for power plays and we may learn more in future AST Job storyline with far more once we can finally enter Sharlayan.

[jameseoakes]

Well "in a certain point of view" their actions can be quite similar especially when looking as AST Job Storyline shows us with how they would gladly murder anyone who tries to give knowledge of their arts to outsiders.

Not to mention that the government has been stated to be more corrupted and their "Isolation" now is more to thinking anyone not from Sharlayan are "Savages".

Though I am curious now how Sharlayan are handling their magic more internally than externally. From what we learn from NPCs so far, mostly from AST Job Storyline, there may be some internal abuses going around with the higher ups for power plays and we may learn more in future AST Job storyline with far more once we can finally enter Sharlayan.

Well "in a certain point of view" their actions can be quite similar especially when looking as AST Job Storyline shows us with how they would gladly murder anyone who tries to give knowledge of their arts to outsiders.

Not to mention that the government has been stated to be more corrupted and their "Isolation" now is more to thinking anyone not from Sharlayan are "Savages".

Though I am curious now how Sharlayan are handling their magic more internally than externally. From what we learn from NPCs so far, mostly from AST Job Storyline, there may be some internal abuses going around with the higher ups for power plays and we may learn more in future AST Job storyline with far more once we can finally enter Sharlayan.

Sharlayan does seem to be in a strange place, it's suppose to have a strong disdain for war (which informs it's view that the other Eoarzan states being savages. It is suppose to have shaired it's advances in the past (atherite travel was rediscovered by Sharlayan and shared with the other city states) they do seem to be becoming more isolationist and corrupt which could make for some interesting developments.

[CosmicKirby]

Looking at Red Mage lore there is no "Witch hunt" that happened after the Great Flood but that Mhach and Amdapor survivors swore to cast aside their old Black Mage and White Mage ways to create a new Mage Organization that works together using both Black and White Magic to benefit the world. However, as the Mhach and Amdapor lore states survivors were very few so I can guess the knowledge of Red Magic did not go very far with so little amount of survivors and the Red Mage Order's history with Mhach and Amdapor along with how White Magic became restricted to the Padjal and Black magic is now forbidden arts to the entire World to prevent another Great Flood from happening again.
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From just the website blurb you're entirely correct, however I believe the poster was referring to...

The Age of Restoration Years 1-4000 (Sixth Astral Era) [immediately after the Calamity of Water]
Scars left by the Sixth Umbral Era ran deep, instilling much despair into the hearts of the realm's few survivors. Fearing that its continued use might further their woes, the art of magic was widely forbidden. Libraries housing ancient tomes were put to flame, while those who practiced--or were rumored to practice-- the art of spellcraft were hunted down and tried as criminals. Many a learned man met the same demise, as the masses had become so incensed they could no longer distinguish the difference between science and sorcery.

Granted, I can foresee Square subverting this, by having the art of being a Red Mage masked as fencing, buuuut, the quoted person has a point. It's PARTICULARLY odd that the survivors of the two mage cities responsible would just immediately form a new magical order. At least without a proper explanation.

Edit: Someone else having posted the same blurb from another source, I imagine Square wouldn't mean to just ignore it, hopefully it's explained in the Job Quests.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

The Red Mages seem only Sharlayan in their similar style of dress; the lore differentiates them from Sharlayans pretty well, and I'm happy for that. The Sharlayans - at least outside of Astromancy - don't seem like a particularly magic-focused culture, but a learning/scholarly one (not to be confused with all things Scholar-related). If you look at the Scions, all of them practice different disciplines, but ally under the shared goal of both protecting and deepening their understanding of Eorzea and Hydaelyn as a whole.

Red Magic was an art form born of necessity during an Umbral calamity. That in itself makes it pretty interesting (as a direct link to the War of the Magi), and I do hope they at least touch upon that.

[Vexander]

The Sharlayans - at least outside of Astromancy - don't seem like a particularly magic-focused culture, but a learning/scholarly one (not to be confused with all things Scholar-related).

Don't seem like a particularly magic focused culture? Have you -been- inside the Great Gubal Library? Or the Anti-Tower? Minfilia herself stated that the only reason the Garleans never invaded Old Sharlayan is because they fear the Sharlayan's magical might. In the Warring Triad series, Urianger sets up a barrier that would take any mage over 20 hours to unmake, with its only weakness being those with the Echo.

Sharlayan likely could've existed alongside the likes of Amdapor and Mhach and held its own. Its -the- magical nation of the modern age (as far as we're aware).

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Don't seem like a particularly magic focused culture? Have you -been- inside the Great Gubal Library? Or the Anti-Tower? Minfilia herself stated that the only reason the Garleans never invaded Old Sharlayan is because they fear the Sharlayan's magical might. In the Warring Triad series, Urianger sets up a barrier that would take any mage over 20 hours to unmake, with its only weakness being those with the Echo.

Sharlayan likely could've existed alongside the likes of Amdapor and Mhach and held its own. Its -the- magical nation of the modern age (as far as we're aware).

I should've clarified better. Sharlayans use magic; seems like all cultures except the Garleans use it (because they can't), and the Sharlayans have developed powerful schools of magic of their own. But they are not definied by being a magical powerhouse much like Amdapor and Mhach were. Until the actual fighting broke out, the "war" was a cold one; an arms race to deter the other, and other countries from trying anything. Sharlayan - as a modern magical nation - opted instead to go the scholarly route so as not to repeat the mistakes of Amdapor (screwing with the natural balance) and Mhach (messing with the Void).

Oh, and for the person who asked why White Mages would work with Mhachi survivors: Leave it to a Calamity-level disaster to make people set aside their differences, especially where survival is concerned.

[Heliantheae]

Second row from top, right side. That just screams "villain" to me.

That's just Gentiana. She got lost.

[SenorPatty]

Btw, as there been any info on Stormblood's theme song? I was thinking it being sung in an eastern language (does not have to be japanese) would be nice

[Unholychinchilla]

As has been said not all in Mhach and Amdapor were in favour of the war and massive disasters have a tendency to give people a new perspective. Coupled with the witch hunts it's not surprising that White Mages and Black Mages banded together and chose to craft a new form of magic, drawing upon their combined knowledge, that perhaps was not so dangerous (it'd be a bit stupid to continue the exact practices that caused the whole mess in the first place).

Also doubt there's a whole bunch of Red Mages out there as opposed to a few scholars keeping the tradition alive. It could even be like sch and smn where you are researching into a lost art. Nothing about the description confirmed they are active today just during the 6th Umbral era at least.

As for Sharlayan they've not been shown to have access to white and black magic (and I doubt they'd want to touch the latter with a 10 foot pole) so them creating a discipline based on the two seems a bit of a stretch.