The dragon war and the Dragoon

[ManuelBravo]

Dragoon isn't a pet class, it never has been, and it never will be.

Hmmm Was on FFXI as a companion so comment rejected.Also I'm sorry is a Choco a pet or a companion? Because I'm pretty sure I said it would be a nice companion not a pet.

[Felis]

Still: Neither of them are living, breathing dragons. They're primals looking like dragons.

You can say that also to Carbuncles and the Summoner have still Carbuncle glamours for their Egis. So why not a Dragon Primal Egi as an Egi glamour?

[Vidu]

Think about it perhaps a growth system similar to the chocobo would work.

It does sound like something that could work - but not for dragoon and instead for everyone. Just as the chocobo works for every class. Why would a system like that be exclusive to a class that simply isnt a pet-class? Your idea isnt bad and I'd like to see it added to the game - as a general mechanic to raise a second chocobo-type-companion, not as gameplay-mechanic for dragoon, because as such it doesnt make sense, neither gameplay nore lore wise.
You went from talking about dragoon as a job into ideas that would work better in general and being available to just every class.
Besides your idea isnt as creative and innovative as you may think it is - I've seen several requests to add our mounts as companions just like the chocobo but it appears to be more difficult to add that into the game than you might imagine (adding all those attacks and animations for them - doesnt seem to be like something the devs want to spend ressource on right now). Ans seeing how that would already be a lot of work, why should it be exclusive to just one class that would have to be reworked on top of that?
Say byebye to FFXI-pet-dragoon and make that idea a concept for everyone.

[Vidu]

You can say that also to Carbuncles and the Summoner have still Carbuncle glamours for their Egis. So why not a Dragon Primal Egi as an Egi glamour?

I never said there shouldnt be a Dragon Primal Egi glamour (even though I would doubt a little bit that it would look any good, seeing how tiny those egis are...) - I simply explained why Bamahut and Shinyru are both primals, but not dragons at the same time.

[Lollie]

An on topic thread to finally drop this bomb on yay (I've posted this several times).
Drg skill set in xi was just a very limited version of a bst if said bst only used pot pets if said bst could only call one once every 2 hours. It wasn't till quite deep into the production this was alieviated. A poorly played anything is going to be worse then a well played anything.

It took 3 new skills and drastic reworks of 2 other to make xi drg unique in its own game. Xiv drg would end up being a mch turret or a smn pet, neither of which fits it thematically even if all drg, which strive to attain that rank just to be on the front lines of killing specifically dragons, usually out of hate for them, suddenly 180 in attitude over night.

[Savagelf]

through the dragon compainon for everyone isn't bad ideal it may work better for dragoon. everyone can be a dragoon point in fact. have the dragon send one there child with you to aid you and work with you is also a good way keep the alliance between isgarde and the lessor race grown stronger. tho Migardis may count something. seem in the game lore that dragon and isgarde when they work together build bond of some kind it may work with Miq'ta and Au ai aswell which interest go down that part of lore

[Vidu]

through the dragon compainon for everyone isn't bad ideal it may work better for dragoon.

And here I say: No it wont. If they give us one of their children as a companion, they should give it to the Warrior of Light, not a dragoon.
A Dragoon is technically a person who spent their entire life learning how to slay dragons. And thats the kind of person you want to entrust with the life of a dragon-baby? Actually... it would make a lot of sense to me to completly remove the dragoons now - since we dont require their services anymore...

So I'm all in favour of removing the dragoon alltogether (solves the whole problem, really) and just give us, as a character, more options for companions beside chocobos!

[Ririta]

I never said there shouldnt be a Dragon Primal Egi glamour (even though I would doubt a little bit that it would look any good, seeing how tiny those egis are...) - I simply explained why Bamahut and Shinyru are both primals, but not dragons at the same time.

Being a primal doesn't stops you from also being a dragon... both Nidhogg and Bahamut have been called dreadwyrms. To add, Bismarck has also been called a whale.

[Dualgunner]

Being a primal doesn't stops you from also being a dragon... both Nidhogg and Bahamut have been called dreadwyrms. To add, Bismarck has also been called a whale.

The primal Bahamut and the dragon Bahamut are two separate beings. The primal Bismarck and the flying whale Bismarck are two separate things. A primal is only aether given the form of the belief of the people who believe it into existence. Primal Bahamut is a fake dragon if considered a dragon at all, is what she's trying to say.

[Vidu]

Being a primal doesn't stops you from also being a dragon... both Nidhogg and Bahamut have been called dreadwyrms. To add, Bismarck has also been called a whale.

Again: Primals are beings of aether, the form they take depends on the people who summon them. Nidhogg, Bahamut and Shinryu LOOK like dragons because thats what their summoners had in mind. Bismarck LOOKS like a whale because thats how the Vanu picture their god. Being a primal stops you from being basically anything else - you can have a title that refers to what you look like or something.
Best way to explain what I mean right now is: When I was a child I had a plushie toy that looked like a fox - but it obviously wasnt a fox. A better example would obviously me having an imaginery friend who looked like a fox, because I gave it that shape - that wouldnt have made it a real fox either though.

I understand that it can be a little confusing, but dragons are actually a folk of living creatures and Bahamut was once one of them - the Bahamut we get to see however is only made out of aether, and not the living dragon Bahamut anymore.
If you kill a dragon you're left with the corpse of said dragon - if you kill a primal there is no corpse.