The dragon war and the Dragoon

[Vidu]

So Bahamut is not a primal now?

Do I have to explain again?

While yes, Bahamut is a primal now that primal is NOT a dragon but a primal created after the image of the dragon Bahamut. A primal can take any shape or form, depending on who summons him - and in Bahamuts case it was his wife, who wanted her husband (the dragon) back. Thats why this primal LOOKS like a dragon but isnt one.

[Stitches1974]

Do I have to explain again?

While yes, Bahamut is a primal now that primal is NOT a dragon but a primal created after the image of the dragon Bahamut. A primal can take any shape or form, depending on who summons him - and in Bahamuts case it was his wife, who wanted her husband (the dragon) back. Thats why this primal LOOKS like a dragon but isnt one.

Was trying to correct myself when you posted.

But to add to the original reason why this was brought up, Bahamaut has been a summons in many FF games. No reason why it couldn't be an egi glamour.

[Lambdafish]

Was trying to correct myself when you posted.

But to add to the original reason why this was brought up, Bahamaut has been a summons in many FF games. No reason why it couldn't be an egi glamour.

Honestly, you are right, but perhaps it could go another way, wherin your egi changes into Bahamut egi when you go into dreadwyrm trance.

[Vidu]

But to add to the original reason why this was brought up, Bahamaut has been a summons in many FF games. No reason why it couldn't be an egi glamour.

Welll, its not as if Bahamut isnt a summon/primal in this game either - but in that moment he isnt a dragon anymore, just a bunch of aether looking like one. And seeing how it was the allagans who trapped him in that moon and the Smn having an allagan background aswell, it would make some sense to have a bahamut-egi.

...to be honest though: seeing the size of the egis I'm not sure if it would look any good :/ Probably would end up like some sort of purple version of Garuda...

[raela]

I dunno, when something goes terribly wrong and I end up with boss aggro on DRG, I make a great temporary tank. Keen Flurry and Bloodbath go a long way. DRGs die a lot from using jumps at a bad time and being animation locked into an aoe, or elusive jumping back into something nasty. We really don't need a pet.

[ManuelBravo]

From what I've heard the dragon-pet sucked in FFXI - with being overpowered but also having that longass CD so once it was dead, the dragoon was useless...I also cant see it fit in AT ALL in FFXIV - neither gameplay nor lore-wise..

Not sure were you got your information about DRG being terrible. Personally I DRG/SAM on XI and it was a power house if you knew how to link WS properly. As for the Pet dying and then being useless, That wasn't the case to an actual DRG that knows his CD. Second Hello DRAGON WARS, did you happen to do the Moogle Beast tribe quest?Based on your stats I would hope so. Getting help from a Dragon would actually fit in. Spoiler alert: "For Dragon , Moogle, and Man to work as one once again" was constantly used. If they can do a Choco why not a wyvern? Personally I miss having a Pet like that for Dragoon.

[ManuelBravo]

I dunno, when something goes terribly wrong and I end up with boss aggro on DRG, I make a great temporary tank. Keen Flurry and Bloodbath go a long way. DRGs die a lot from using jumps at a bad time and being animation locked into an aoe, or elusive jumping back into something nasty. We really don't need a pet.

For those situations an healing boost would be nice. While tank is temp down, as for elusive jump do you even look around your surroundings?

[Vidu]

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I did my Moogle Beast Tribe quest, yes. And I freaking love those dragon babies we're getting help from, but that doesnt change my point that they're basically babies - have you done the last Beast Tribe quest when its all about teaching the little Ohl Deel the dragon cry?
Those dragons are friends with the moogles, whom they've been friends with for those 1.000 years of us killing and fighting them. The war began with a bunch of elezen killing a dragon and since then dragoons have made it their agenda to kill dragons - and now you expect a folk of creatures with memories that exceed our lifespan to just forget about all that and give us their kids as companions...? If you remember the sidequests in the forelands those little dragons cant even HUNT for themself, because they're children - its one thing to work together with the dragons within their homelands, its another thing to take a dragon-baby onto an adventure into the Far East... The war might be over, but the wounds are far from healed. You appear very shortsighted to me, both in lore and gameplay perspective. Introducing a dragon-pet would be mean that the dragoon itself would experience heavy nerfs and a potential rework.

While it would certainly be cool to be able to use all of our mounts (including a wyvern) as companions like the chocobo, that doesnt has to be dragoon-exclusive. And bringing a large pet like the wyvern into dungeons seems not very practical - seeing how small the SMN-egis are...

Its okay that you're missing your pet - but its also okay that this is a different game from FFXI and that the dragoon-job obviously works very differently from the one you were used to.

[ManuelBravo]

You appear very shortsighted to me, both in lore and gameplay perspective. Introducing a dragon-pet would be mean that the dragoon itself would experience heavy nerfs and a potential rework.

Said the kettle, Think about it perhaps a growth system similar to the chocobo would work. Start it off as a type of minion, the more it travels with you the more it grows. Based on level would be able to assist perhaps a form of contract or range based that randomly happen. Perhaps at first on world maps kind of how minions follow you around but don't act. How are these ideas short sighted? If anything perhaps adding some type of additional stat effects on minions would also work out temp just harder to level so they take time and dedication. IF I can focus on just relic weps I wouldn't mind grinding an actual pet companion. It's a suggestion and perhaps having a CD later on wouldn't be bad on it kind of a support type like an egi or Mech tools. Now poor in lore, wouldn't that be a nice step to healing old wounds being were talking about the warrior of light? Be creative not negative. Also as a programmer, yes it's a bit of work, yet it is achievable. Being a programmer is a way to express a vision. If I could I would love to see it become a reality.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Said the kettle, Think about it perhaps a growth system similar to the chocobo would work. Start it off as a type of minion, the more it travels with you the more it grows. Based on level would be able to assist perhaps a form of contract or range based that randomly happen. Perhaps at first on world maps kind of how minions follow you around but don't act. How are these ideas short sighted? If anything perhaps adding some type of additional stat effects on minions would also work out temp just harder to level so they take time and dedication. IF I can focus on just relic weps I wouldn't mind grinding an actual pet companion. Now poor in lore, wouldn't that be a nice step to healing old wounds being were talking about the warrior of light? Be creative not negative.

Dragoon isn't a pet class, it never has been, and it never will be.