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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    Service has been rendered.
    I'd like to see the evidence of this. What you've been espousing would never hold up in a chamber of commerce. And I'm sure the OP can also make a claim with the BBB. And as I've said before, his bank/credit union would back him as well if he really wanted that money back.

    Legality has nothing to do with this. Its good sense, community, society, and trust. That's what every organization I just listed is about. Its weird and sad that you cannot (or more specifically choose not to) comprehend that and would like to see an innocent suffer for an honest mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    I'd like to see the evidence of this. What you've been espousing would never hold up in a chamber of commerce. And I'm sure the OP can also make a claim with the BBB. And as I've said before, his bank/credit union would back him as well if he really wanted that money back.

    Legality has nothing to do with this. Its good sense, community, society, and trust. That's what every organization I just listed is about. Its weird and sad that you cannot (or more specifically choose not to) comprehend that and would like to see an innocent suffer for an honest mistake.
    The BBB is just a nonprofit organization of questionable value and has no actual authority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    The BBB is just a nonprofit organization of questionable value and has no actual authority.
    I've used them in the past with unresolved situations such as this. Usually with favorable results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    I've used them in the past with unresolved situations such as this. Usually with favorable results.
    lol

    Their entire business model is to basically take advantage of an undeserved reputation they've managed to establish through marketing and hold businesses hostage with the threat of a bad rating, despite their ratings being meaningless and mostly the product of paying dues or not to the BBB. A large and well established company like SE, which isn't even based in the US, has little reason to care what the BBB says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    I've used them in the past with unresolved situations such as this. Usually with favorable results.
    If you look up SE's rating on the BBB you'll note how seriously they take it. It's rather interesting to see the score variation between companies with mmos on there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    I'd like to see the evidence of this. What you've been espousing would never hold up in a chamber of commerce. And I'm sure the OP can also make a claim with the BBB. And as I've said before, his bank/credit union would back him as well if he really wanted that money back.

    Legality has nothing to do with this. Its good sense, community, society, and trust. That's what every organization I just listed is about. Its weird and sad that you cannot (or more specifically choose not to) comprehend that and would like to see an innocent suffer for an honest mistake.
    I'm not a lawyer but I still know the basics: OP is party A and SE is party B. A and B close a contract. A provides the payment, B provides the access to the server. A made a mistake, B is not willing/able to help (and not obliged to). A does a chargeback but B provided the access to the server. So B fullfilled his part of the contract, A not. Just because A isn't able to log in because of his own mistake, doesn't nullify that B provided him with access to the server. B has the right to demand the payment with a lawyer/collection agency and as a consequence to ban his accounts.
    It may differ from country to country but the basics how to close a contract are fairly similar.
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    Last edited by Tremara; 04-09-2017 at 04:43 PM. Reason: typo