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  1. #41
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    I voted for mammalian beastman back in the day for the poll. Still so salty that they said "Like Viera" instead of "like Mi'qote" for the mammalian demihuman. You know the reason that won was because everyone was all "They promised bunny girls for sure!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    Please can we get a race that is unique to 14
    No thanks, we have more than enough races already.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pintsized View Post
    No thanks, we have more than enough races already.
    Agreed - I dont understand why people are constantly asking for a new race (...okay, I understand why guys want to look at bunny-girls, I guess... but thats not actually something I agree with or even support at all).
    Why do you want a new race? Are you so unhappy with the ones we're having? Is it just for the sake of having something new? Since its only cosmetic in the end but requires quite a bit or work, I would imagine, I dont understand the appeal of adding a new race - when the world is already well established without that race - AuRa were weird enough, if you ask me... Cant imagine playing through the story as an AuRa but having Yugiri cover up her face for a good while because she could scare people...
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  4. #44
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    In addition to the equipment difficulties, there's also the fact that this game has a clear division between human-like and beast-like races. If we have a wolfman race, why are they to be considered one of the "Spoken" races, when they don't look any more like the other player races than the Amal'ja do? Why wouldn't the wolfmen be considered a Beast Tribe? And if they WERE considered a Beast Tribe, that would require some pretty major rewriting of the Main Scenario. I just don't see it happening.

    If another player race is added, it won't be a bestial one. It'll be another human-like variant, like Dwarves, or possibly another Hyur-with-animal-bits-glued-on.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    In addition to the equipment difficulties, there's also the fact that this game has a clear division between human-like and beast-like races. If we have a wolfman race, why are they to be considered one of the "Spoken" races, when they don't look any more like the other player races than the Amal'ja do? Why wouldn't the wolfmen be considered a Beast Tribe? And if they WERE considered a Beast Tribe, that would require some pretty major rewriting of the Main Scenario. I just don't see it happening.

    If another player race is added, it won't be a bestial one. It'll be another human-like variant, like Dwarves, or possibly another Hyur-with-animal-bits-glued-on.

    really it wouldent be any different to when au ra were introduced really. there werent any au ra around (not counting mistwalker) then suddenly they were everywhere and no one questiond a thing :/

    and as for the beast tribe thing id point you towards the gobbies



    and personally if thay are going to add a new race to the game then i want it to be actully unique and not just another anime furry (human with tail and ears)

    and if thats imposable then but the budget to upgrading the looks of the current races :/
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    Last edited by dalta; 04-08-2017 at 12:19 AM.

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Agreed - I dont understand why people are constantly asking for a new race ...
    Why do you want a new race? Are you so unhappy with the ones we're having? Is it just for the sake of having something new? Since its only cosmetic in the end but requires quite a bit or work, I would imagine, I dont understand the appeal of adding a new race - when the world is already well established without that race - AuRa were weird enough, if you ask me...
    While constantly asking for a new race does seem kinda outrageous, it does give the developers ideas on how popular the demand is, and what people are wanting to see. Adding new races IS a part of world building, and while 'the world is already well established' without additional ones, as expansions come by it WILL be necessary to eventually add new races as our world is expanded. But not all races need to be playable either (Vanu vanu and Gnath).

    Yugiri was introduced during 2.X. The Au'ra were added as a playable race in 3.X, and we're going to be traveling to some of their native lands in 4.X. Seems like the best we can realistically hope for is a new playable race being revealed in MSQ that might become playable in 5.0. 1 new race every 2-3 expansions sounds like a decent pace to match the speed of world expansion.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    If we have a wolfman race, why are they to be considered one of the "Spoken" races, when they don't look any more like the other player races than the Amal'ja do?
    It should be noted that all of the beast tribes are, in fact, categorized "Spoken" (At least, according to my research - which lacks the lore book as source). The term "Beastmen" or "Beast Tribe" is a derogatory term used by the self-proclaimed "civilized" races and a mark of the Garlean Empire bestowed on any race that associates with Primals or is accused of doing so. This includes owners of the Echo. While the empire definition is pretty clear, the other usage of the term is arbitrary - Lalafell are clearly mutated popotos and belong to the vegetable tribes as subcategory of the beast tribes (headcanon).

    That said, the Elezen became a Beast Tribe during the MSQ according to Garlean definition.
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    Last edited by Zojha; 04-08-2017 at 01:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Agreed - I dont understand why people are constantly asking for a new race (...okay, I understand why guys want to look at bunny-girls, I guess... but thats not actually something I agree with or even support at all).
    Why do you want a new race? Are you so unhappy with the ones we\\'re having? Is it just for the sake of having something new? Since its only cosmetic in the end but requires quite a bit or work, I would imagine, I dont understand the appeal of adding a new race - when the world is already well established without that race - AuRa were weird enough, if you ask me... Cant imagine playing through the story as an AuRa but having Yugiri cover up her face for a good while because she could scare people...
    Novelty, what else?

    Play long enough with or alongside races and sure enough, chances are you'll want a new one.

    Personally, I'm the type that would request a new race if they already exist in the game after playing for a long time.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaelseMikiro View Post
    While constantly asking for a new race does seem kinda outrageous, it does give the developers ideas on how popular the demand is, and what people are wanting to see.
    But, in reality, other than a dozen or so enthusiastic posters here on the OF, where is the demand of any significance for a new race?

    Adding new races IS a part of world building, and while 'the world is already well established' without additional ones, as expansions come by it WILL be necessary to eventually add new races as our world is expanded. But not all races need to be playable either (Vanu vanu and Gnath).
    Adding new tribes and cultural variants of existing races is just as viable in regard to world building. How many playable character races does Earth have? One. Do we need to have a dozen different playable races for a world? Not really, as long as the character customization is up to the task of providing variety within the different races we already have. Wider variation from better customization would far outwiegh the addition of a new race in terms of worth to the player base as a whole.

    Yugiri was introduced during 2.X. The Au'ra were added as a playable race in 3.X, and we're going to be traveling to some of their native lands in 4.X. Seems like the best we can realistically hope for is a new playable race being revealed in MSQ that might become playable in 5.0. 1 new race every 2-3 expansions sounds like a decent pace to match the speed of world expansion.
    We already have a perfect candidate for 'playable race' - the Garleans.

    Beastmen are completely unnecessary, create problems with gear models, lore and just about everything else you can imagine considering beast tribes are the ones summoning Primals... As for the person who quipped (can't remember if this was in this thread or the one about Viera) about guys wanting to see bunny girls, that desire would be far better served by the Bunny ears and tail that comes with the costumes from the Saucer, since it's far closer to the Bunny Girl (or Playboy Bunny) trope that people are leaning on.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    It should be noted that all of the beast tribes are, in fact, categorized "Spoken" (At least, according to my research - which lacks the lore book as source). The term "Beastmen" or "Beast Tribe" is a derogatory term used by the self-proclaimed "civilized" races and a mark of the Garlean Empire bestowed on any race that associates with Primals or is accused of doing so. This includes owners of the Echo. While the empire definition is pretty clear, the other usage of the term is arbitrary - Lalafell are clearly mutated popotos and belong to the vegetable tribes as subcategory of the beast tribes (headcanon).

    That said, the Elezen became a Beast Tribe during the MSQ according to Garlean definition.
    Also, their clear origin in the Giraffe should not be neglected when considering their beastly status...
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