Please remove the weekly lock out of stuff

[Skivvy]

I hate the lockout restrictions. It's one of my larger complaints with this game. Let people gear and play how they want. If it makes people happy to get 3 jobs geared up in a short period of time, let them. This game is designed so that it is very easy to get caught up every major patch, and no single player can truly be that far ahead of anyone else.

I personally would love to play multiple jobs, but honestly I can't deal with having to stretch out the long grind over several months. To me, it's insanely dull and boring. I would love to be able to bring another job to an event, but I feel like I always need to bring my WHM as that is the job I gear first, and therefore is more useful. People don't generally want undergeared players in their parties.

So as it is, I just don't bother with my other classes, and boredom hits regardless. Which is then followed by unsubbing. Also, replies of "but have you tried this, this and this!" really do no good. I have been here since beta (technically 1.0), and I have tried just about everything in game. We all have our preferences of what we enjoy doing, and how we spend our time.

I doubt the caps will ever be removed, but as others have voiced, I think a tomes cap per job could do wonders. This way progression is still slowed (to keep SE happy), but it allows players flexibility in the jobs they gear and play (to keep us happy).

And for what it's worth, I would consider myself a casual player.

[bswpayton]

I hate the lockout restrictions. It's one of my larger

But again as I asked the person above earlier, I play many hours a day like all day sometimes Im in a long distance relationship so I like to avoid temptations by just sittin at home playing ff 14 are relaxing. Thats a side point but again if you have 270 gear and you have no desire to even do alex normal, or any extreme primals, and the furthest you will go as far as content is the two ex dungeons then you have no need for the gear.

Yes you may want it but I see no need for SE to remove the cap for players that are casual that if you ask them hey do you wana run some harder content the answer is always no. But they will gladly do roulette and things of that nature then its just really no reason for you to have said gear other than just wanting it. There is no lore cap and you can do dungeons with just lore gear and be perfectly overpowered.

[Skivvy]

But again as I asked the person above earlier, I play many hours a day like all day sometimes Im in a long distance relationship so I like to avoid temptations by just sittin at home playing ff 14 are relaxing. Thats a side point but again if you have 270 gear and you have no desire to even do alex normal, or any extreme primals, and the furthest you will go as far as content is the two ex dungeons then you have no need for the gear.

Yes you may want it but I see no need for SE to remove the cap for players that are casual that if you ask them hey do you wana run some harder content the answer is always no. But they will gladly do roulette and things of that nature then its just really no reason for you to have said gear other than just wanting it. There is no lore cap and you can do dungeons with just lore gear and be perfectly overpowered.

That's a tricky question honestly. As mentioned, I do consider myself a casual player. I'm not really into the coil/alex style raids, but I did always enjoy the 24 raids and some extreme fights. But even with being a casual player, if I am going to play a job, I want to bring my best to the table. That is just my playstyle. Can players survive dungeons and other lighter content in minimum iLvl gear? Of course. But to me, it makes my time more enjoyable when I'm not barely scraping by.

It feels like you're pretty much telling a good chunk of the playerbase that gear doesn't really matter. If that's the case, why bother spending our time running dungeons for tomes? What then is the main source of content that SE is providing the casual player since they don't really have a need to gear up that much? And if gear is so unimportant, why bother having caps in the first place since the casual player may not even bother taking advantage of it?

I'd have to look up the charts, but awhile back they had posted a graph showing how many people had cleared the latest raids. The number was incredibly tiny. We obviously have no way of seeing the full picture, but that does seem to imply a bit that only a small percentage of players are really dedicated to clearing "endgame" raids (coil/alex/etc).

As it is now, at least judging by threads that always pop up, a good number of people who rush the new content end up unsubbing after a month anyway. So who is this cap really good for?

[bswpayton]

That's a tricky question honestly. As mentioned, I do consider myself a casual player. I'm not really into the coil/alex style raids, but I did

Not exactly tho like you said you dont like the grind, but ok lets say that the end of your content journey is the 24 man raids and the current ex dungeons. For both of these you can easily get away with lore gear with a few extra pieces with a higher item level.

Lore is unlimited right now so you can have all you jobs inbetween 240 to 250 range you could do all the content that you said you enjoyed like that. So then what for your playstyle not venturing out into other content if all your jobs are ilvl 240 - 250 what else are you going to do in game. I dont no this to be the case but judging from how you say you have unsubbed etc then Id gather nothing really until stormblood, just because shire has a higher ilvl doesn't mean that if you max all your jobs out in it that if you stay on a certain level of content that you would stay subbed any longer than you normally would.

[Skivvy]

Not exactly tho like you said you dont like the grind, but ok lets say that the end of your content journey is the 24 man raids and the current ex dungeons. For both of these you can easily get away with lore gear with a few extra pieces with a higher item level.

Lore is unlimited right now so you can have all you jobs inbetween 240 to 250 range you could do all the content that you said you enjoyed like that. So then what for your playstyle not venturing out into other content if all your jobs are ilvl 240 - 250 what else are you going to do in game. I dont no this to be the case but judging from how you say you have unsubbed etc then Id gather nothing really until stormblood, just because shire has a higher ilvl doesn't mean that if you max all your jobs out in it that if you stay on a certain level of content that you would stay subbed any longer than you normally would.

Fair questions

I think my displeasure comes from a few sources within the game, and they all feed off of each other and have landed me where I am now. And also, I can only speak for myself of course. I know plenty of people are completely content with the game, I'm happy for them! So take this all with a grain of salt.

My (very condensed) transition over the last few years has been:

-I want to play a few jobs! (WHM, BRD, BLM), and I definitely spent a lot of time gearing the first two jobs
-After a few major patches hit, and full gear sets were constantly needing to be replaced, this is when the monotony started kicking in
-Got tired of running the same dungeons and raids over and over again for months at a time
-Dropped down to only a single job because I just couldn't do the long grind for all the other jobs any longer
-Found other jobs I was interested in, but decided not to pursue because I decided I did not want to spend the next several months gearing jobs only to be hit with a new patch & tomes and have to start fresh.
-Stopped doing dailies on my WHM because what was the point? I could get by on whatever gear I had.
-Boredom continues since I've lost the will to battle the gear treadmill, which then killed my desire to try new jobs, etc.
-Unsub

There we go! And really not trying to be dramatic, that's just how it's gone for me. Honestly, this probably just isn't the game for me anymore. I enjoyed it when it first came out, and I still really want to enjoy it, but there are a ton of little things like this that have pushed me to the point where I only sub now and then.

And I think I went off topic to your question Going back to that, again, I really do like gear progression. Even as a casual. As I mentioned earlier, I really do try to gear & play my jobs to the best I can, and when I'm hit with caps and (IMO, unecessary) delays, it's just a bit disheartening to me. Do I NEED max Ilvl? Of course not. But no one really does.

For me personally, removing the caps would actually make me excited to try leveling new jobs. i have a bunch that I would like to try out, but I just don't want to deal with gearing it in the current set-up. I'd be spending far more time in game levleing those jobs and working on the gear.

[Sylvaneste]

Fair questions

I think my displeasure comes from a few sources within the game........

This is exactly why I created this thread/request. Like I said in my OP, I just wish to play the game, today i may wish to tank, tomorrow I may wish to heal, next day dps, but once you have done your weekly raid, your weekly scrips, etc, It gets discouraging to want to log back in and play a class just to play.

[bswpayton]

This is exactly why I created this thread/request. Like I said in my OP, I just wish to play the game, today i may wish to tank, tomorrow I may wish to heal, next day dps, but once you have done your weekly raid, your weekly scrips, etc, It gets discouraging to want to log back in and play a class just to play.

But what your missing tho is so far at least form what Ive read everyone who doesnt like the gear grind has mention that they have unsubbed. While people who grind gear and dont mind it are the ones that arent taking breaks and leaving for months at time. So why change anything for people who only like to play the game in moderation?

[Vidu]

This is exactly why I created this thread/request. Like I said in my OP, I just wish to play the game, today i may wish to tank, tomorrow I may wish to heal, next day dps, but once you have done your weekly raid, your weekly scrips, etc, It gets discouraging to want to log back in and play a class just to play.

I understand your problem here, what I dont understand however is: If the lockout is removed and you can just gear up all classes at your own pace (which seems to be faster than its currently possible?) what do you do after each class is fully geared and there is nothing left to do for you because there is no goal to achieve anymore?
I'm genuily curious about that because I'm not bothering with the cap for weeks anymore - all the classes I play are 260+, I have no use for scrips and would gladly give them to any of you!
I also dont really understand why people feel they need ilvl260/270 gear for casual content (I'm sorry if I'm wrongly assuming that you're not intrested in Savage/EX-Primals)
While I'm not totally against the removal of a lockout or something I can totally understand why SE has it in place... and I've been wondering for ages why people need so many tomes when mine are just lying around - while most of my classes still have highlevel gear

[bswpayton]

Fair questions

I think my displeasure comes from a few sources within the game, and they all feed off of each other and have landed me where I am now. And also, I can only speak for myself of course. I know plenty of people are completely content with the game, I'm happy for them! So take this all with a grain of salt.
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I dont really think this is just on SE tho the game I played before this swtor , around the time I quit they where on their new expansion but was actually bringing out only a chapter every month. Thus drawing out peoples subs for 12 months with it being 12 chapters I think I dont really remember.

The only thing on gear I have a complaint about and its not even really a complaint would be weapon progression different ways that arent insane to get a weapon thats better than potd. But I mean you dont have to have all of your jobs at ilvl 270 my highest job is at 265 due to having crappy potd weapon, and I just started gearing my healers and its only taken a few weeks, Ill have all my jobs geared to at least level 255 to 260 by exp if not higher in less than two months. I think what you are kinda just saying is that you dont really like the mmo model, because mmos are suppose to be a grind and are suppose to take time thats why you keep giving them money every month. Otherwise you would have a conclusion, gear cant last very long because again how often do you que for something just because you want to do it.

[Skivvy]

I think what you are kinda just saying is that you dont really like the mmo model, because mmos are suppose to be a grind and are suppose to take time thats why you keep giving them money every month. Otherwise you would have a conclusion gear cant last very long because again how often do you que for something just because you want to do it.

I actually love MMOs, and I really don't mind grinding for gear - if I find it enjoyable and worthwhile. I played XI for years, still sub now and then, and I think we all know how that game was with grinding. I have a few other MMOs under my belt as well, and currently play Archeage (which is another grind-fest).

I like to have projects in game, and I love having long term goals for gear or toys, or whatever else suits my fancy. My issue with XIV is that you spend all this time building up your gear sets, and then you're knocked right back down after a new tome is released. It doesn't feel very rewarding. Grinds exist in all MMOs, but XIV (IMO) does not hide it very well, and the grind is not enjoyable for me.