Why are bad hunt behavior rewarded?

[Jadub2k]

This is always going to be a thing, there's just too many factors in this. Like how fast or late does the call get relayed, how many people are actually there, how fast are your load times (<- this is a hard drive issue I believe), etc.. Realistically no one can wait there for almost the entire server to get there, but if someone IS early pulling with few people there.... Well... there's nothing to stop that from happening and sadly we're forced to deal with it. Could make the hunts harder to down, but not sure what effect that would have. Overall HP was increased already I believe. But i'm not gonna say nothing can be done because there's always room for improvment. Just what those improvements are is the question lol

[Alestorm]

At least there's no world PvP to encourage ganking when people are fighting rare hunts. WoW got terrible about that recently.

It pretty much is summed up like this: there's the quick; and the waiting for the mob to respawn.

[QuinRaines]

Well I don't really do hunts anymore but back when I used to (Mostly for my i210 relic). My friends and I would be the ones searching for the A ranks and attempting to spawn the S ranks whenever possible.

We'd find an A for example, post in the LS for anyone fast enough, then pull and kill it. You think we're gonna let people just sitting around in their houses or idyllshire leech off the hunt we found? Hell no. Is it selfish? Maybe, but we were the ones putting the effort in most of the time, so I think it's justified to kill what you find.

[Paladinleeds]

Yep, call us selfish because we're just highlighting the rules. Square Enix aren't going to change them. So buck up, find them first, if you want to be decent, then by all means relay the message out. But accept that most people are going to kill on sight and if you got a problem with that then stop doing hunts. If you feel the hunts are too important to the game to handle either of those, then quit. Those are your options because I can guarantee you Square Enix won't change the rules to what you're suggesting. If they do, hell, I'll even toss you something from the Mog Station out of my own pocket, that's how confident I am they won't change.

[Felis]

solution: increase the attack stats and HP of the hunt monsters 10 times. Then you really need the whole server to have a chance

[XSamsaraLotusX]

Solution. Stop be a cry baby that think he deserves to get all there is and all the world need to wait for him.

[EvanUk]

They dont have the numbers to take the hunt mobs down at all -_- They simply rely on stupid sheep mentality that if they attack the monster as soon as they arrive everyone will pile in and back them up( which people do ). Meanwhile lots of other considerate people who actually hunt and spawn the mobs patiently wait and try to share with as many people as possible. Why would anyone encourage/defend/promote such antisocial behaviour? It is well known these people do it for the attention they get from upsetting as many people as possible and then antogonise them in chat afterwards. Infact i believe they have had warnings because they no longer engage in /shout anymore. People need to not let things like this slide and most definitely not treat it like " Oh stuff happens just deal with it ". The community should be able to come together with Se to come up with a solution, as both the community and Se shouldnt be acknowledging anti-social behaviour on this level on a daily basis.

[Kit-Kat]

Well I don't really do hunts anymore but back when I used to (Mostly for my i210 relic). My friends and I would be the ones searching for the A ranks and attempting to spawn the S ranks whenever possible.

We'd find an A for example, post in the LS for anyone fast enough, then pull and kill it. You think we're gonna let people just sitting around in their houses or idyllshire leech off the hunt we found? Hell no. Is it selfish? Maybe, but we were the ones putting the effort in most of the time, so I think it's justified to kill what you find.

Pretty much this. I was one of those waiting for LS calls, yet I knew the risk. I wouldn't demand anything when I didn't work for it. I saw a call, I went to the spot, mob is dead? oh well bad luck, try again next time. It's basically free rewards for no effort, why do people complain with this entitlement nonsense.

You're lucky enough someone is sharing the info with you, if people had to keep waiting for the whole server to arrive, marks would never die. If you think it's greedy, what do you call expecting to get ALL full rewards without lifting a finger?

[Settiesama]

They dont have the numbers to take the hunt mobs down at all -_- They simply rely on stupid sheep mentality that if they attack the monster as soon as they arrive everyone will pile in and back them up( which people do ). Meanwhile lots of other considerate people who actually hunt and spawn the mobs patiently wait and try to share with as many people as possible. Why would anyone encourage/defend/promote such antisocial behaviour? It is well known these people do it for the attention they get from upsetting as many people as possible and then antogonise them in chat afterwards. Infact i believe they have had warnings because they no longer engage in /shout anymore. People need to not let things like this slide and most definitely not treat it like " Oh stuff happens just deal with it ". The community should be able to come together with Se to come up with a solution, as both the community and Se shouldnt be acknowledging anti-social behaviour on this level on a daily basis.

I feel like you read the OP and then skipped all the pages until the last. The important pages where we have specifically detailed why people pull 'early' and it's very rarely for grief. Just because you want to hang out in Idyllshire/House/Cities and answer a call, expecting people to wait for you, doesn't mean they're grieving you when it's dead before your arrival.

[JunseiKei]

You think we're gonna let people just sitting around in their houses or idyllshire leech off the hunt we found? Hell no. Is it selfish? Maybe, but we were the ones putting the effort in most of the time

<_< This, to be honest. People that are actively hunting tend to get there ASAP, even if they were in a different zone.

They dont have the numbers to take the hunt mobs down at all -_- They simply rely on stupid sheep mentality that if they attack the monster as soon as they arrive

xD I recently had a group just sit back and watch me 'solo' a hunt for that reason. They didn't attack it until it was 50% and realized I wasn't going to die. I found it amusing, especially after they said in say chat, "Don't attack. Just let her die and then kill it after it resets."

I've stopped calling hunts and just solo them. After having the 'wait or have salt thrown at you' for years now, I'm just tired of waiting and the drama. I just want the rewards and go back to doing more important things in the game. At least I still report the kills for those that plan to go hunting later.