Why are bad hunt behavior rewarded?

[Naunet]

"You can get it now but please wait 10 minutes for all my friends to arrive, then another 10 minutes for their friends, and 30 minutes for that person to clear dungeon to arrive" is a very sad thing to expect people to do. I'd rather kill it when my party is there, since you know, we worked to find it in the first place. I'm all for helping people, but I won't promote laziness by wasting my own time waiting for them to appear from other zones.

I think taking things to an extreme end is being disingenuous at best. There are some reasonable boundaries here, but it's not overly burdensome to wait for folk who are on their way. I've often seen people post a "pulling at ____" start time, which is plenty courteous as it gives those who want to get there a known time limit.

[Settiesama]

There are some reasonable boundaries here, but it's not overly burdensome to wait for folk who are on their way. I've often seen people post a "pulling at ____" start time, which is plenty courteous as it gives those who want to get there a known time limit.

That's fine and all, but after sending out a message about the spawn, it will create a chain reaction with people telling FC and LS members, which will have them zoning in. After the pull, no matter how long you waited, will be cried out as an Early Pull, and the whinging and moaning will commence from those who weren't even hunting to begin with. As the group who finds it, you will never win in that regard. People will consistently tell you to wait longer, I am no stranger to this. I've given up with it all, I'll pull as soon as my group has gathered. By the time we all gather back up at it, is plenty of time for other active hunters to find it too.

[Naunet]

After the pull, no matter how long you waited, will be cried out as an Early Pull, and the whinging and moaning will commence from those who weren't even hunting to begin with.

This is simply not my experience. If you give people a reasonable time to get there, I've yet to see anyone get upset.

[Claviusnex]

... I've often seen people post a "pulling at ____" start time, which is plenty courteous as it gives those who want to get there a known time limit.

I like that idea. If I am in an area it gives me an idea if I have a chance to make it to the fight or to just keep doing what I'm doing. I look at hunts when I'm out on my own as an added bonus if I can make it but no big deal if I don't. Given how the bosses spawn I think it is common courtesy to let folks now the boss is there and to allow them some time to get on site. Conversely folks trying to make it to the fight are owed no special treatment just because they need a bit more time to get there.

[odintius]

I just wanted it more fc related you accept a hunt from whatever grand company the mob spawn in random zone only your fc can claim it and can give special permission to others and then have to go find it. Then the fc if nice could put in party finder to enlist help and could give extra credit reward for doing so at the same time helping get a reward to the people who's outside of your fc as well instead we got this cluster (fill in the blank).... More people the more the hunt scales up in HP ect as well.

[Niqote]

Yes, it sucks when you have a group of people like that. However no one person is deserving of these mobs over the other. The only way you or anyone will be guaranteed to get the mob is if you actually actively hunt them yourself/establish a hunting LS (using the spawn time tracker on various websites like Ariyala etc )

Personally I think SE should have implemented the hunt mobs not be target-able for a time after they spawn (Something like 1min-5mins) However then there is the problem that the Mobs or your PT members become hard to target due to the amount of people around...

[hynaku]

If they catch you early pulling in my fc they kick you. hey could fix the problem once NM is killed make it so ones than killed it can't see it anymore but ones that missed out on it. they cant still see it and kill it.

[Bloody]

Most people wait ~5 min on Hyperion to pull, I've seen a wait as long as ten, but like others have said, especially on moderate to large servers there will almost always be some armchair hunter who gets pissy because he or she missed a hunt due to late call in a poor LS or slow response time.

[Jadub2k]

This is always going to be a thing, there's just too many factors in this. Like how fast or late does the call get relayed, how many people are actually there, how fast are your load times (<- this is a hard drive issue I believe), etc.. Realistically no one can wait there for almost the entire server to get there, but if someone IS early pulling with few people there.... Well... there's nothing to stop that from happening and sadly we're forced to deal with it. Could make the hunts harder to down, but not sure what effect that would have. Overall HP was increased already I believe. But i'm not gonna say nothing can be done because there's always room for improvment. Just what those improvements are is the question lol

[Alestorm]

At least there's no world PvP to encourage ganking when people are fighting rare hunts. WoW got terrible about that recently.

It pretty much is summed up like this: there's the quick; and the waiting for the mob to respawn.