As a healer, is it my job to DPS? A new perspective.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

And no one asked your opinion.
having to carry your sorry behind through content because your too lazy to Excell GOES BOTH WAYS

Neither did we ask for yours. Funny thing about forums. People offer their opinions on a public discussion. Imagine that!

And since you're copping such a wonderful attitude, I decided to check your logs. Wouldn't know, someone claiming they'll "carry our sorry behinds" has no Savage clears. Maybe you shouldn't talk such a big game, hmm?

Handling stance dancing in higher difficulty content is a lot different than stance dancing in a random dungeon. While I agree a healer that doesn't stance dance in higher content shouldn't be there. I'm speaking of DF, kicking someone from a dungeon because they're not stance dancing is a bit..dumb if you ask me. But that is my personal opinion and I'd rather not add more to this pointless argument that neither side are budging on. Thankfully for me I have yet to see people wanting to kick someone over something that is truly minor.

Edit: Well minor when it comes to DF to say at least.

See, that's fair. Most of this thread has pertained to Savage. While I'll grumble over it whenever I go into Expert, I won't kick healers who won't DPS in dungeons. I'm also infinitely more patient with people still learning to DPS as a healer or new to whatever content entirely. All I ask is they vocalize this.

exactly this.

the whole idea of this topic is just beyond me.

arguing that more healer dps leads to more mitigation is correct. with more mitigation i have to heal less... so, i, a healer who just likes to heal, should dps more so i have to heal less? but healing is the part i want to do, and dpsing is the thing i don't want. so the more i dps the less can i do the thing i want to do?

how does anybody think that this whole idea of more dpsing = less healing could change the mindset of heal only healers?

i have only one soultion to the whole problem:

a new healer class wich does not dps, but has a lot of utility and party buffs to compensate for that. sadly, that's basically AST without cleric and better buffs, so i guess it won't happen xD
or an opposite scholar: a healer with a dpsing pet on auto pilot... yeah, i would like that...

As others have already outlined, a job with little to no DPS will be completely shunned in Savage; more so than Paladin and White Mage already are now. You flatout wouldn't be accepted into a large amount of groups at Savage level content with a job like you're suggesting. XIV simply does not warrant enough dedicated healing for it to be viable. It's the primary reason White Mage has suffered this tier following Astro's god tier buffs. The devs designed it around be a burst heal job yet there is no fight in the entire game a Scholar or Astro cannot heal with near equal efficiency. Honestly, XIV needs to strongly consider nearing healer potency or increasing the outgoing damage if the devs want to disincentive the DPS meta. I'm on the camp believing they should, personally. It seems silly an optimal healer spends less time actually healing than they do dealing damage.