As a healer, is it my job to DPS? A new perspective.

[Wanzer]

Obviously. Remember when and where I said you were crazy ? Or you'd rather stay out of context.
Take a huge breath, my friend... It's time to go back in the past.

Wanzer in particulary has decided to be quite derogatory and attack my personality for some reason only she knows. Im certainly not sure why . The only reason I can think of is that I didnt agree that I suck if I dont dps and must improve myself yet already said that I do and have.

What the... Me ? In particulary ? AGAIN ?! <_<

It's very hard to resist at your baits honestly. But you are totally crazy, my friend. I don't give a single crap about you. I didn't even say once that you suck, or you should change your playstyle, or that I hate healers that don't DPS (another proof that you never read anything). You can even check all my previous comments : IT. JUST. NEVER. HAPPENED.
But again, your paranoia talked for you, and your hypocrisy called me out. Why ? Are you in search for your worst enemy now ? Can't you find a real one who really says something bad against you ?

The only thing that i told you is "i really don't like liars who try to make their points based on sentences out of the context, and/or trying to make themselve as victims when there is no attack at all". Nothing else, nothing more. And this, isn't even an insult, you know. I could even use the exact same sentence for a healer DPS doing the same. But here, you edited your post again to fill it with crap, and yeah, it's very sneaky and i'm very amazed.

And at this point I, and only I, am being attacked by your behaviour (since a few comments from you). And you should have noticed it at this point.

Can you notice the problem here? Why did I say you were crazy?
Nah, It can't be because you changed many times what I said and tried to describe me like a crap only there to attack you.
Nah, it's probably not because of this. Not even because I had to remind you many times my stance about the whole thread, totally at the opposite of what you said I was thinking. Naaaah... This is true, it wasn't crazy at all to have your behaviour. You are right, we are all bad people. And we love harassing innocent persons because it's fun ; you are probably just too good for this world actually. As you said, and you really said it : "you are the nicer person on this thread".
Unbelievable...


By the way, saying you are crazy isn't even an insult. As well as saying you lied. It's what we can call facts. And not just facts actually, but facts based on evidences (and I don't even have to say "maybe they removed these proof", because they are real). Because, you know : Defamation.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/defamation?s=t

noun
1.the act of defaming; false or unjustified injury of the good reputation of another, as by slander or libel; calumny:

[Feyona]

I enjoy the supportive aspect of healing; I'd just like to see more to it than the damage and healing dealt by itself. That said, I don't want to be cycling through buff maintenance either, as I've seen suggested as an alternative for filler time. Any ideas?

Think Ive said it before I think if healers could dps to heal not just through assize but other spells as well, It works for disc priest in wow. And works through assize. I hope Im answering the question you asked

[Feyona]

Obviously. Remember when and where I said you were crazy ? Or you'd rather stay out of context.


Nah, it's probably not because of this. Not even because I had to remind you many times my stance about the whole thread. Naaaah... This is true, it wasn't crazy at all to have your behaviour. You are right, we are all bad people. And we love harassing innocent persons because it's fun ; you are probably just too good for this world. As you said "you are the nicer person on this thread".
Unbelievable...


By the way, saying you are crazy isn't even an insult. As well as saying you lied. It's what we can call facts. And not just facts actually, but facts based on evidences. Because, you know : Defamation.

Please stop throwing mental health issues around Im sure your not qualified to do so and I think you need to look at whether your behaviour is appropriate here and this is not said with any hostility intended Im asking you to refrain from using words. like paranoia to describe bahaviour when even professional hesitate to label anyone's condition and its always confidential so I know you are not qualified anyway. and my post limit is up but to bourne if you really want to see evedence of hostility to non dps healers then look at my thread Other than this Im not replying to any more off topic posts but Im still going to put my case of why I posted here in the first place there is a problem in my opinion with forced healer dps I will say here though that I have attempted several times to let this drop and tried to get the conversation back to normal but its you that wont leave it alone even when I have tried to talk in a reasonable way. That you percieve my responses as hostile I can say only one of them was defensive after being insulted several times I did not want to retaliate at all thats why I removed it. My posts here were never made with hostility in mind its just that I dont agree with you and said so plus if your talking about my experiencd and your wrong I will say so and thats not hostility Furthermore, what you call lies were misinterpretation of wht I meant so there is no evidence and please also look at the word insult as evidence if you need any more. You contiue (refering to the posts below) To judge zero you have already misinterpreted what happened once and I told you are wrong about what happened so why are you doing it again? Ive said the truth of what happenned in my static and your saying stuff that isnt true about it why? What is the motive you have for derrogating my healing when a few posts ago you said it was good? I repeat they never practiced with me on a9 at all. Ihad left the group and I did not have a terrible attitude towards them yes it took along time for us to clear but half of us were new to raiding

[Wanzer]

Please stop throwing mental health issues around Im sure your not qualified to do so and I think you need to look at whether your behaviour is appropriate here

Hum. Hmmm.


Ok. So basically you can say whatever you want, but nobody can tell you when your behaviour sucks, why it sucks, and how it sucks. So you can lie, i guess? You can say... I don't know... Describe people how you want, but they can't? Making strange assumptions only based on your feelings and your lack of confidence but... In a good way? You can attack people but they can't defend themselves to clarify things? Ok, well, as an non-professional, at least can I ask you to leave me alone now? (not just me actually) Because it looks like harassment since a while. And people are... A bit tired of this situation. But, can I tell you this even if I have no university degree? Or you are going to be mad at me for saying this also?

OH, and by the way :

Omg the insults just keep pouring out dont they victim, crazy, paranoid, liar, now strange stalker what next lol? I think its you that has issues dont project your messed up stuff onto me

Or should I call you doctor ?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Dont you reaize that some of you do exactly the same to me as what you accuse me of? I can go back and qoite it all with evidence because its there and alot of my posts quoted what has been said. and I dont really care much about optimal play as such I care more about enjoyment of everyone not just the chosen few that can play expertly or how you expect them to

By all means, go and quote these examples. The majority who have kept up with this thread have only repeated the same stance ad nauseum. I'm curious what you perceive "insulting".

[Wanzer]

and my post limit is up but to bourne if you really want to see evedence of hostility to non dps healers then look at my thread Other than this Im not replying to any more off topic posts but Im still going to put my case of why I posted here in the first place there is a problem in my opinion with forced healer dps

Oh, so your evidences of people attacking you on this thread are on... a different thread. Well, at last now we know. Thanks.

Edit :

I have attempted several times to let this drop and tried to get the conversation back to normal but its you that wont leave it alone even when I have tried to talk in a reasonable way. That you percieve my responses as hostile I can say only one of them was defensive after being insulted several times I did not want to retaliate at all thats why I removed it. My posts here were never made with hostility in mind its just that I dont agree with you and said so plus if your talking about my experiencd and your wrong I will say so and thats not hostility

At some point, you really should just stop. It's embarassing. I mean, how can you convince yourself about this? You are litteraly bullying someone and you just don't care. And for no reason. Even when we all thought the discussion was over you came back with a false accusation on the whole community. And the train started again. Even when I was following people's advices about no responding to you, you took this to taunt me as a proof of your nonsense.

I think she may not respond because she doesnt have a justifiable answer. And one person here that actually did want to communicate without insults is me. And just because I dont agree with you when your wrong Im getting hate because some of you on here only like points to support healer dps. Which I cant agree to or I would have to lie and say its good for everyone, which it isnt. Because Im one who says it isnt good for me. Apart from that if you are withdrawing isnt it you that cant communicate properly? Works both ways

So now, the real question is : Are you kidding me? Is this fun for you? Because it is not for me. Are you a troll? What is your long term goal about this?
You are the worst person I ever met on this whole forum. You are just a wall. You only see what you want to see, listen what you want to listen. You randomly attack people and quickly acting like a victim. It's just impossible to deal with you and your nonsense. Even when we choose to ignore you, you keep coming, and coming, and coming... It. Just. Never. Stops. You can't stop.

I don't know you, I don't know who you are in your real life. And I don't want to know. But I'm not your toy, my friend. And I'm sick of this. I'm not even your enemy, but anyway now i'm done. Here you go, you deserve it :
Congratulations ! You won something ! Yay !

[bounddreamer]

I don't think anyone in this thread is advocating that people be forced to dps against their will. Might make a recommendation to change from off healer to main healer, maybe.

Your other thread was, at its core, asking to change the meta of the game. Unless Square Enix directly does something to either remove cleric stance or greatly intensify healing requirements, that's not going to happen.

[Lambdafish]

Please stop throwing mental health issues

Are you 4? The word crazy doesn't imply mental health issues in this context (or very many contexts at all), it implies that your arguement and logic is not sound, and you attitude is agressive and confrontational:


https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/crazy

Crazy:
informal
1. Mad, especially as manifested in wild or aggressive behaviour.


In actuality you have inflated this thread another 5 or so pages simply because someone called you "crazy". How did you ever survive on the internet? I'm convinced you are a troll, and I think everyone should jump ship and stop giving you attention.

[Judge_Xero]

Hey I know Fey personally and she a dam great healer we have done a9s, a10s and a11s together as healers.

Noone is disputing how Fey plays now since that was never up for debate. The issue was them calling the community toxic from joining a group as SCH and getting kicked for both being a terrible Healer and having terrible SCH DPS, as well as having a terrible attitude towards not only the healer meta, but the off-heals meta. (going off the existing logs of Fey's group that they referenced to for both A9S and A9N).

We don't know Fey personally like you might. But if you are familiar with the English language and read their comments you could probably understand where this feeling of them being hostile towards the player base comes from, especially when their whole issue came from some type of half-fabricated story of how they were kicked from a raid group after a single attempt to play optimally as an off-heals SCH, for which they referenced their logs to which simply was not the case.

it was something like 132 attempts with a break in the middle where the group practiced on A9 normal to let Fey learn to DPS, which they managed to cast some damage spells. I figure the issue came from when they went back into A9S and Fey didn't DPS after them spending time in A9 normal specifically for them they decided to pursue other options, which is completely fair and IMO going far above what most groups would do in that situation.

Which in itself shows how patient and understanding the player base is of how difficult the meta may be to adjust to if you aren't used to it in a Raid setting.

[Lunafreya]

This thread has become such a mess.