Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
I feel you. I do. But, you don't get to decide what the norm is. The community sets it, and the community has spoken. Speedrunners are the norm, so if you want to farm chests, set up a PF.

Just like if you wanted to watch all the cutscenes in Castrum. The community norm in DF is to skip, so set up a PF if you want to go against the grain.

It's not griefing just because you are the outlier.
Based on my experience, with two Kinna weapons, and having the mount and minions from clearing the 50/100 floors, we're having a problem.

Most of the time, random parties I get want to do chests. So based on majority, speedrun is NOT the DF rule. When I am in Quarrymill you know what I hear for party recruitment? 100% of the time, speedrun party. Because DF wasn't for speedrun, and a party had to be made.

And either way, this does not mean players are allowed to harass/grief because of it. If you were in Castrum, would you refuse to participate if one person in party watched a cutscene? Because people certain refuse to participate or try to wipe the group in palace if they want a speedrun, but don't get it. I literally got yelled at by someone for not doing 41-50 when that was the top floor in 2 minutes. TWO MINUTES!

So right back, make your own PF if you want to speedrun. People already are. Nobody is for chest farming.